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CrazyGamer2017 said:

I don't know what Japan would have done if they had won against the US, all I know is that the US nuked civilians in cities on purpose and it was surrender or genocide. This is in itself worth a thread if someone starts this I may take part but it's complex in and of itself so yeah, a thread for that.

As for Israel they are not nuking or telling Palestinians to surrender or everybody dies so that's a huge difference with the US/Japan situation of 1945.

And again the Arab countries around Israel very much declared war and tried to murder everyone in Israel but Israel beat them so they agreed to a ceasefire cause they had no choice and not out of the kindness of their hearts. Not sure why you say the Arabs did not declare war when they pretty clearly did in 1967 and even before that.

Can I justify kicking out my neighbor? If my neighbor tries to kill me I'll fight back but if my neighbor GANGS UP with other neighbors to try and kill me and my family, that's war and I'll kick them out cause they are a cancer and a danger yes.

In other circumstances you could say it's stealing their house but again read this part slowly so you fully understand it: they GANGED UP with other neighbors to MURDER me and my FAMILY, get it? Stealing is NOTHING in comparison, it's well deserved punishment...

The real question I think is why you and others in this thread believe stealing is bad but genocide is ok? Is it cause the 1967 attempted genocide failed? In my book Arabs tried and I won't excuse them cause they failed, they tried and that's as bad as succeeding. They don't attack anymore but NOT cause they don't want to or because they are civilized now, but cause they know they don't stand much of a chance if they attacked again like they did in 1967 so in my book that's as bad as still wanting to destroy Israel. In a way they still do, some of them still do for example it is known that Iran sponsors Palestinian terrorism and not just that, also that terrorist group in Lebanon whose name I can't recall right now. So yeah this cease fire is only in appearance.

We obviously have very different moral values you and me.

What weapons you use don't matter and Palestinians surrendered regardless, the process and result ended up being similar to a point ... 

The Arabs didn't declare war AFTER 1967 is what I meant and Israel's neighbor isn't ganging up anymore against them so do they feel so compelled to use excessive force ? 

Nobody's defending the Arabs attempt at what you supposedly claim to be a genocide, that's just a straw man on your part ... 

The real question should be why you think it's OK for Israel to continue their conquest when the UN forbids from nationalizing these settlements ...