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palou on 08 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
palou said:

I feel that, looking at history, this is strictly untrue. Minor infringment on freedom of speech doesn't precede, or indicate a slippery slope into totalitarianism. Pre-Nazi Germany had free speech, almost all of the rights to censor were applied in a single day.

You require a sound justification, explanation for any infringment on freedom of speech - and it seems to me that it wouldn't create much more of a slippery slope than anything else. It's, to me, just as bad of an argument as saying that banning hard opioids will lead to the ban of alcohol, saying that allowing 18 year olds to vote will lead to toddlers making decisions in the country. 

You don't let 18 year olds vote already? :O

Hard opioids are also banned. I was talking about historical legislation.



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GhaudePhaede010 on 08 October 2017

Oh and... how can any woman support Trump. It is the most confusing thing to me. If a man spoke about my daughter the way Trump spoke about women, I would fight them. Why does what he has said and done get a pass from you? I should not be standing up for you more than you stand up for yourself.

As a woman, do you not feel your integrity in jeopardy when a man acts this way and you are embracing of it?



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Dulfite on 08 October 2017
Bandorr said:
Dulfite said:

Well yes I do know, but to others that would just be perceived as belief or illogical, so sure we will call it belief if that makes you happy.

And it is true that my beliefs are based off Scripture.

There are how many people on earth? How many religions? How many takes on christianity? How many different scriptures based on the same passage? Yet all that you are egotisitical to think that you "know" god, and know what he wants?

Not to mention I have no clue what your post has to do with this thread.  If your religious beliefs are not dictating your political beliefs - then why did you join a political thread?

It is a thread about politics, not religion.

If political you are fine with the government allowing abortion - then why bring up your religious beliefs that you are against it?

My goodness, I had forgotten how upset people get about things (including things that had no intention of upsetting people). I won't name call or insult you though (if that is what your looking for). But yes, I do know God (through Christ) and what God wants is displayed in the Bible and discerned by believers.

I entered in this because my beliefs impact my political views, as I stated. Also, I DO think governments should ban abortions, I never said I was fine with abortions. I am against abortions because of my beliefs, but that's just one topic. Not sure how that got mixed up?



Dulfite on 08 October 2017
palou said:
Dulfite said:

Ah Cherry picking without context. HE clearly stopped it from happening, was just testing his faith. As for your second statement, I really don't quite understand what you mean by it? Would you mind clarifying?

Why does faith need to be tested by an omniscient being?

God often does things not to verify HIS own knowledge of us, but it helps us humans realizehow much devotion we have or lack towards God.



VGPolyglot on 08 October 2017
Dulfite said:
palou said:

Why does faith need to be tested by an omniscient being?

God often does things not to verify HIS own knowledge of us, but it helps us humans realizehow much devotion we have or lack towards God.

So, why something so extreme then? He wants humans to realize they have devotion to God because they're willing to kill their own child merely because he says so?



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Dulfite on 08 October 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Dulfite said:

I guess I should have been more specific on this. I figured by not saying anything about marriage, people would understand that I don't want legislation on this. I think marriage should not be a government controlled thing period.

And as for abortions, I believe God creates human life to live and come to know HIM.

Well that's selfish of god. Creating people without thinking that in fact, they may not have the desire to carry an offspring - let alone the offspring having a desire to live.

I feel like I am having a hard time understanding the English in this thread. I'm not quite sure what your saying here?

Your saying a baby doesn't have a desire to live? That's all a baby is trying to do in the womb (attempt to survive).

And your saying God is selfish because HE creates people that don't want to become pregnant? I'm very confused by these statements.



Dulfite on 08 October 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Dulfite said:

God often does things not to verify HIS own knowledge of us, but it helps us humans realizehow much devotion we have or lack towards God.

So, why something so extreme then? He wants humans to realize they have devotion to God because they're willing to kill their own child merely because he says so?

Again, God commanded him to NOT harm his son in that passage, it was just a test of faith. God would never have allowed it to happen.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 08 October 2017
Dulfite said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Well that's selfish of god. Creating people without thinking that in fact, they may not have the desire to carry an offspring - let alone the offspring having a desire to live.

I feel like I am having a hard time understanding the English in this thread. I'm not quite sure what your saying here?

Your saying a baby doesn't have a desire to live? That's all a baby is trying to do in the womb (attempt to survive).

And your saying God is selfish because HE creates people that don't want to become pregnant? I'm very confused by these statements.

Yeah maybe it does seem a bit confusing

"And as for abortions, I believe God creates human life to live and come to know HIM."

Why should people not get an abortion just because god created human life? Shouldn't the people who we can actual percieve and know to be real - the people we can touch, feel, and communicate with - get the choice of whether or not to carry a life that actually affects them personally. Why should you have any part in what they choose just because of your religion?



Dulfite on 08 October 2017

I'm out. I can't even express my thoughts on not being able to express my thoughts without people being able to understand or get really angry lol. Oh well, have a wonderful day everyone, I won't be responding anymore.



VGPolyglot on 08 October 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Yeah maybe it does seem a bit confusing

Why should people not get an abortion just because god created human life? Shouldn't the people who we can actual percieve and know to be real - the people we can touch, feel, and communicate with - get the choice of whether or not to carry a life that actually affects them personally. Why should you have any part in what they choose just because of your religion?

Well they do have that choice. They have a choice not to become pregnant in the first place, obviously

There are people that get raped, too.