Fine. Whatever suits you. Its mostly clearly what is happening, but If you don't choose to believe me, then eh, whatever, nothing I can change about that. It will never get officially confined since its shady as hell, and that sucks.

Don't worry we both understood one another.

It's just crazy fanboy wishes that could believe N and MS would throw money without profit just to sell more HW. Sony may have some trillion dollars in a secret account and they just pretend to be poor.

The criticism in this thread is towards Phill Spencer not MS. He said he doesn't like exclusivity buyouts and that they are investing more on 1st party. But every single evidence we see is MS paying for exclusivity and not doing anything for their 1st party increased output.

I don't know how much it will cost them and how much profit it will give them (not only the game, but secondary effects as well), but yes, if they have the opportunity to do it better do it.

At launch? Yes, but basically Sony customers know that Sony will bring the games (Greatness Awaits isn't just for show). X360 got the exclusives on the start of the gen and on the end of the gen it was dry. Sony had always showed good support for exclusives and 3rd parties for 3 gens when PS4 started while MS had cut Xbox og early in its life and give low support on the latter years of X360... so you can see why the market wouldn't just look at release window right?

By making people pay 100-150USD more for the machine because of a piece of HW they didn't want and not have an option it was considered anti-consumer.

Sorry to burst your bubble but PS3 and X360 aligned sales have the PS3 winning every single year. So yes PS3 had a weaker start compared to PS2 but not compared to X360.

Nothing shady about MH:W. This game was in development 3 FUCKING YEARS before Switch came out. Why didn't Sony pay Capcom to not put MH3, MH3U, MH4U on the 3ds?

Because PSVita was decimating 3DS while Sony is scared that PS4 will bomb because of Switch. And they knew that even before Switch was rumored.

Funny reading some of these posts. As if Sony has never done this same shit. lol

Kyuu said: Man, the amount of bullshit posts around here is starting to hurt my head. If Sony pays every company for every goddamned game, then they wouldn't be making profits! Not when you consider the number of games that are either semi-exclusives or only shared with Xbox and PC (Because apparently, if the game isn't on Switch, but is available on PC and X1, then that still wouldn't stop the question of whether Sony moneyhatted! Not even "Okami HD" is exception ) We also have those laughable conspiracy theories about Sony paying Capcom for Monster Hunter World. Not that I'm denying that possibility but.. who was the source of this rumor again? The butthurt leaker who claimed it isn't a mainline game? Who said Monster Hunter 5 is in development for Switch, and that World is dumbed-down and westernized?.. Who said Sony was "getting desperate" and paid to specifically keep the game off Switch without telling you development actually began 4 years ago? Is that the reliable source we're supposed to believe? Did Sony also pay Square Enix to make Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2 run like shit on the Switch?! Haven't you considered the possibility that it could take some time and resources to get a clearly ambitious Monster Hunter game running on a much weaker system? Do you think Capcom could release it simultaneously with PS4/X1 versions without massive compromises? What about the PC version... did Sony also pay Capcom to delay that? What's more ridiculous is that those whiny haters that keep bitching about double standards can't see that the criticism is primarily directed at Phil Spencer's hypocrisy, and not necessarily the practice of securing exclusive content.

Lol this is a bullshit post.  Number one, no one ever said Sony pays for every godamn game, just for some Capcom games.  Dragon Quest builders is a square Enix games. They are also making project octopath traveller for switch. Sony paid for an ambitious monster hunter, since Capcom itself doesn't have AAA funds. Look at the production quality of Street fighter V and MvCi. Street fighter V presentation is better because Sony funded the game, and MvCi looks cheap as hell because it was Capcom themselves. 

phil condones exclusive content locked for a single console, I don't know why people keep twisting that into condoning timed exclusives. It's like some of you guys haven't even read the tweet.

MH world is still available for Xbox One and PC because Sony knows that the game being on those consoles will affect the PS4 version not a single bit cause they don't have big mh fan base,so they didn't need to pay extra to remove it from there. Only the Nintendo version will deduct sales, wether it be 3DS, switch, or even Wii U, cause in Japan Wii U was ahead of PS4 in sales for a long time. They only paid enough to get it off Nintendo consoles.

flashfire926 said: Kyuu said: Man, the amount of bullshit posts around here is starting to hurt my head. If Sony pays every company for every goddamned game, then they wouldn't be making profits! Not when you consider the number of games that are either semi-exclusives or only shared with Xbox and PC (Because apparently, if the game isn't on Switch, but is available on PC and X1, then that still wouldn't stop the question of whether Sony moneyhatted! Not even "Okami HD" is exception ) We also have those laughable conspiracy theories about Sony paying Capcom for Monster Hunter World. Not that I'm denying that possibility but.. who was the source of this rumor again? The butthurt leaker who claimed it isn't a mainline game? Who said Monster Hunter 5 is in development for Switch, and that World is dumbed-down and westernized?.. Who said Sony was "getting desperate" and paid to specifically keep the game off Switch without telling you development actually began 4 years ago? Is that the reliable source we're supposed to believe? Did Sony also pay Square Enix to make Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2 run like shit on the Switch?! Haven't you considered the possibility that it could take some time and resources to get a clearly ambitious Monster Hunter game running on a much weaker system? Do you think Capcom could release it simultaneously with PS4/X1 versions without massive compromises? What about the PC version... did Sony also pay Capcom to delay that? What's more ridiculous is that those whiny haters that keep bitching about double standards can't see that the criticism is primarily directed at Phil Spencer's hypocrisy, and not necessarily the practice of securing exclusive content. Lol this is a bullshit post.  Number one, no one ever said Sony pays for every godamn game, just for some Capcom games.  Dragon Quest builders is a square Enix games. They are also making project octopath traveller for switch. Sony paid for an ambitious monster hunter, since Capcom itself doesn't have AAA funds. Look at the production quality of Street fighter V and MvCi. Street fighter V presentation is better because Sony funded the game, and MvCi looks cheap as hell because it was Capcom themselves.  phil condones exclusive content locked for a single console, I don't know why people keep twisting that into condoning timed exclusives. It's like some of you guys haven't even read the tweet. MH world is still available for Xbox One and PC because Sony knows that the game being on those consoles will affect the PS4 version not a single bit cause they don't have big mh fan base,so they didn't need to pay extra to remove it from there. Only the Nintendo version will deduct sales, wether it be 3DS, switch, or even Wii U, cause in Japan Wii U was ahead of PS4 in sales for a long time. They only paid enough to get it off Nintendo consoles.

So Sony paid for the development of the game (MHW) but should let Nintendo benefit from the expenditure they made? And for some odd reason they already allowed X1 and PC to benefit from it?

Because the critic is to Phill not MS. Funny is reading your post and the ones defending Phill.

i don't think you know what decimating means...plus, PS4 is doing great.

Buuuut, I'd be the first to argue Sony shoukd be very, very afraid of Switch. PS5 could be in trouble.

@OT, MS mocking tined exclusives and tgen trying to add more is very funny, but it's been like 9 montgs sice Spencer made tge comments.  what this really receals is Spencer is probabky a very frustrated guy right now since he kniws timed exclusives are a sad tactic but Xbone has almost nothing else going for it.

Three years ago, Wii U was ahead of PS4 in Japan sales. Why didn't they decide to put it there? Development may have started 3 years ago, but the moneyhatting could've occurred at any stage of development, it doesn't have to be the fucking start of development, people. For example, no western localization of MhXX is shady as fuck. Capcom has been localizing all 3DS monster hunters for NA. Why stop now? Cause they received a little paycheck from Sony, that's all. 

HAHAHA Sony doesn't publish and fund games to sell them on  their console, but to sell their own consoles on the strength of those games. You think MH World will sell as many PS4 while being a multiplatform game as it would as a PS4 exclusive? No, just no. By that logic they might as welll publish all their games on Xbox and PC just to keep potential Nintendo customers from buying a Switch.

No, Sony does care about Xbox probably more than Nintendo. That's where the real fight lies for them. Stop with these tin foil conspiracies, damn this is annoying. Its so obvious you're line of thoughts is wrong, how do you not see it man.