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CGI-Quality said:

Cutting off the studio that produces their biggest IP probably wouldn't be the most sound business decision.

I would say that they just should increase the size of Poliphony, it's a relatively small studio for the kind of game they are doing. And they should consider some changes in the higher management positions, because the output of the studio right now is not good compared to other internal teams.

GT6 lacked a lot of content from GT5 (no endurances is a good example). Now, 4 years later, it doesn't seem like they are doing real progress.

PS.: And, of course, cutting off the studio is a ridiculous suggestion.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Just for a quick clarification.
I won't be able to play without internet?

You can do time trials and split screen races (only on select tracks apparently).

lol @ people saying GT has never had much of a career mode. That's a load of crap. The first few had amazing career modes. IIRC 4/5 did as well, although the UI in 5 was way too bad for me to stick around much. Didn't play much of 6.



CGI-Quality said:
flashfire926 said:
So this is the the result of four years of work........huh. Sony cut off the wrong racing studio last year.

Cutting off the studio that produces their biggest IP probably wouldn't be the most sound business decision.

Sorry to say, but gt isn't bigger than uncharted or the last of us, and probably even horizon once the second installment comes.

But getting back to the point, I mean cut the incompetent studio known as polyphony. Give GT to some other better studio, ending it would be idiotic.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Just for a quick clarification.
I won't be able to play without internet?

You can do time trials and split screen races (only on select tracks apparently).

lol @ people saying GT has never had much of a career mode. That's a load of crap. The first few had amazing career modes. IIRC 4/5 did as well, although the UI in 5 was way too bad for me to stick around much. Didn't play much of 6.

I see, that's bad. So yeah Fuck GT sports. Hope Sony/PD will learn a valuable lesson here.



flashfire926 said:
BillyBong said:

Game is called GT "Sports".. with the sport mode being the focus.  What other game gives you an opportunity to earn an actual FIA racing license, recognized and valid in 22 countries? That's what real skills will do for you in this game.. it's the actual driving test.  Campagin is basically prep work for the real meat of the game.. sport mode, where races can matter to some as well as how good you are at utilizing real driving skills to win races, thus the online aspect where races and progress will be monitored.  With a game clearly focused on multiplayer, I see no issue with the "campaign mode".  Thus the "real driving simulator" reign shall continue.   

Okay, so they have fia license............but with absolutely none of the fia circuits. LOGIC. 

Online racing is far cry what from what you rink it is, since they are basically demolition derbies. This goes for nearly every racing game out there.

No upgrading cars, no dynamic weather, only 177 cars, with like half of them being race variant clones of already existing cars. Only 6 real-life locations. God knows what they have been doing for the last 4 years.

Yes... certainly it's online portion is such a BS that their GT Academy was able to flourish and put a pilot into a professional position.

Also certainly the game is such a sore simulation that Yamauchi also got second place in Nurburgring.

And definetely the skills used in the game are such useless things that I probably were lucky that after several thousand hours played among the 6 GT games I had my first kart race and ended first against people that raced every week, and were able to have a lap in the best 5 of the month.

flashfire926 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Cutting off the studio that produces their biggest IP probably wouldn't be the most sound business decision.

Sorry to say, but gt isn't bigger than uncharted or the last of us, and probably even horizon once the second installment comes.

But getting back to the point, I mean cut the incompetent studio known as polyphony. Give GT to some other better studio, ending it would be idiotic.

The evidence being? The only GT to date to sell less than a UC or TLOU in a single platform were 6 as far as I remember.

Anyway you suggested cutting PD and keeping DC dev, so is DC bigger or better than GT?

The main reason for GT being what it's is the passion of Kaz Yamauchi. Sure you can suggest that Sony improve the management or increase the dev. But GT without him would be souless... IF they want another franchise they may make a new dev and start a new IP (hint, DC failed at it).



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With as many racing game options as we have these days, is there really a reason to care? If this news puts somebody off, they can just get a different game that's just as good, or arguably better. Big whoop.



DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Okay, so they have fia license............but with absolutely none of the fia circuits. LOGIC. 

Online racing is far cry what from what you rink it is, since they are basically demolition derbies. This goes for nearly every racing game out there.

No upgrading cars, no dynamic weather, only 177 cars, with like half of them being race variant clones of already existing cars. Only 6 real-life locations. God knows what they have been doing for the last 4 years.

Yes... certainly it's online portion is such a BS that their GT Academy was able to flourish and put a pilot into a professional position.

Also certainly the game is such a sore simulation that Yamauchi also got second place in Nurburgring.

And definetely the skills used in the game are such useless things that I probably were lucky that after several thousand hours played among the 6 GT games I had my first kart race and ended first against people that raced every week, and were able to have a lap in the best 5 of the month.

flashfire926 said:

Sorry to say, but gt isn't bigger than uncharted or the last of us, and probably even horizon once the second installment comes.

But getting back to the point, I mean cut the incompetent studio known as polyphony. Give GT to some other better studio, ending it would be idiotic.

The evidence being? The only GT to date to sell less than a UC or TLOU in a single platform were 6 as far as I remember.

Anyway you suggested cutting PD and keeping DC dev, so is DC bigger or better than GT?

The main reason for GT being what it's is the passion of Kaz Yamauchi. Sure you can suggest that Sony improve the management or increase the dev. But GT without him would be souless... IF they want another franchise they may make a new dev and start a new IP (hint, DC failed at it).

Stop living in the PS2 generation. The age of Gran Turismo is coming to a close, since the studio hasn't been competent since 2004. Kaz should focus on making the game better rather than focusing on all this "gt academy" and fia crap. All he does is tour the world with Sony's dollars. Get over it. It isn't 2003 anymore. Also, DC sold well, and by the end it was a great racing game. Much better than GT sport will ever be.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes... certainly it's online portion is such a BS that their GT Academy was able to flourish and put a pilot into a professional position.

Also certainly the game is such a sore simulation that Yamauchi also got second place in Nurburgring.

And definetely the skills used in the game are such useless things that I probably were lucky that after several thousand hours played among the 6 GT games I had my first kart race and ended first against people that raced every week, and were able to have a lap in the best 5 of the month.

The evidence being? The only GT to date to sell less than a UC or TLOU in a single platform were 6 as far as I remember.

Anyway you suggested cutting PD and keeping DC dev, so is DC bigger or better than GT?

The main reason for GT being what it's is the passion of Kaz Yamauchi. Sure you can suggest that Sony improve the management or increase the dev. But GT without him would be souless... IF they want another franchise they may make a new dev and start a new IP (hint, DC failed at it).

Stop living in the PS2 generation. The age of Gran Turismo is coming to a close, since the studio hasn't been competent since 2004. Kaz should focus on making the game better rather than focusing on all this "gt academy" and fia crap. All he does is tour the world with Sony's dollars. Get over it. It isn't 2003 anymore. Also, DC sold well, and by the end it was a great racing game. Much better than GT sport will ever be.

GT6 released on PS3 as far as I know... GT5 released in 2010 and sold more than 10M (with prologue selling over 5M). No other racing franchise (other than MK) really get anywhere near in sale, so please show your evidence to close the studio.

So a simulation game that is so well done that Academy and FIA is a possibility to get a license is a bad game because?

And good that you already played GT Sport to know it have no way to be better than DC, even though considering the Sim part DC wouldn't be better than even GT4.

What is your point really. Just to take shit at the game you don't like and pretend that is some kind of universal thing?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Perhaps it's time for a new meme, GT happily dying since 2005.

GT stays the same, lots of moaning.
GT tries a new focus, more moaning.
GT comes out every 4 years, lots of moaning.
Forza releases every year, more moaning.
Gamers be grumpy.



CGI-Quality said:
flashfire926 said:
So this is the the result of four years of work........huh. Sony cut off the wrong racing studio last year.

Cutting off the studio that produces their biggest IP probably wouldn't be the most sound business decision.

What would you do with Polyphony Digital then?

If you were in charge of Sony studios, what would be the most intelligent step to take with a studio like that?

Clearly, they are not making any money for Sony by not releasing anything.

They take WAY too much time in between games, with so little difference between one another.

This game most likely wont fulfil critic expectations, and 99% sure Forza 7 will wipe the floor with it at Metacritic.

The game WILL sell great, but if the series keeps going in quality decline, there will be a time when consumers wont take the bait again for Gran Turismo games.

Personally, i think Yamauchi has to go...like ASAP.

Not so long ago i saw PD studios and that shit makes Naughty Dog Headquarters look like trash, and they are pushing quality AAA games more frequently than them. 

Something has to happen IMO.