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Jumpin said:
outlawauron said:

How do you qualify mainstream media? I'm reading this on NYT and WashPo. Doesn't get much more mainstream than that.

You're making claims you cannot back.

Don't just talk about it, I'm not taking your word for it. Show me all of these articles about the mass murder epidemic in the US this year. Show me all of this major attention that the mainstream is giving this.

I mean, I understand that you don't want to put forth any effort to at least qualify what is mainstream media. Internet makes it easy though.

Here's the "Guns and Gun Control" and the "Guns in America" aggregation by NYT which has the aforementioned articles that are shed light on murders, our response, and even editorials calling for the ban of open carry. Not everything is inherently anti-gun (duh, it's an aggregation of similar articles), but there are some very informative articles (like this one) that talk about things we can do to combat mass shootings and gun violence.

I don't even pay that much attention to the news, but this is one of the most talked about news items that I can think of.



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VGPolyglot said:
LadyJasmine said:

My Observation as western Societies become more accepting of other minorities blacks, LGBT and etc..

 

Things are going in the complete opposite direction for Muslims... 

It's the Muslims that are being persecuted here...

Really? So the muslims did nothing to receive this abuse? From what I read they started some bombings and some other stuff. While yea its extreme retaliation, its still retaliation. 



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eva01beserk said:
VGPolyglot said:

It's the Muslims that are being persecuted here...

Really? So the muslims did nothing to receive this abuse? From what I read they started some bombings and some other stuff. While yea its extreme retaliation, its still retaliation. 

So, you're supporting collective punishment? Most Muslims in Myanmar are just normal civilians.



eva01beserk said:
VGPolyglot said:

It's the Muslims that are being persecuted here...

Really? So the muslims did nothing to receive this abuse? From what I read they started some bombings and some other stuff. While yea its extreme retaliation, its still retaliation. 

Well, for the most part, you're never going to get the whole story. Especially when people are trying to push an agenda about Muslims being innocent in almost all cases.

It's no different then when Islamic terrorists positioned in Palestine fire a rocket at Israel, but Israel is the big bad guy because they fired one back.  Granted this retaliation is beyond the point that should have been taken, but it's also not a bunch of racist Buddhists killing Muslims for no reason.



VGPolyglot said:
eva01beserk said:

Really? So the muslims did nothing to receive this abuse? From what I read they started some bombings and some other stuff. While yea its extreme retaliation, its still retaliation. 

So, you're supporting collective punishment? Most Muslims in Myanmar are just normal civilians.

With in my very comment I say its extreme yet you still ask if im suporting it. I guess you will only listen if I say what you want to hear, herre goes. 

Danm thouse violent buhdist, doing this unprovoked gencide just cuz its the religion of peace and they would never dream of retaliating so it wil be easy. Bunch of racist pigs.



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thismeintiel said:
eva01beserk said:

Really? So the muslims did nothing to receive this abuse? From what I read they started some bombings and some other stuff. While yea its extreme retaliation, its still retaliation. 

Well, for the most part, you're never going to get the whole story. Especially when people are trying to push an agenda about Muslims being innocent in almost all cases.

It's no different then when Islamic terrorists positioned in Palestine fire a rocket at Israel, but Israel is the big bad guy because they fired one back.  Granted this retaliation is beyond the point it should been taken, but it's also not a bunch of racist Buddhists killing Muslims for no reason.

Well its ovbious already that you can only go right or left, if you try to be even a litle critical of the side the sensationalist agree with, your a racist, sexist, nazi. 



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eva01beserk said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, you're supporting collective punishment? Most Muslims in Myanmar are just normal civilians.

With in my very comment I say its extreme yet you still ask if im suporting it. I guess you will only listen if I say what you want to hear, herre goes. 

Danm thouse violent buhdist, doing this unprovoked gencide just cuz its the religion of peace and they would never dream of retaliating so it wil be easy. Bunch of racist pigs.

Also, I was basing that on the claim that Muslims somehow started it. However, that's ignoring the decades of discrimination against Muslims. In 1982 they were even deprived of their citizenship

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/01/13/burma-amend-biased-citizenship-law



VGPolyglot said:
eva01beserk said:

With in my very comment I say its extreme yet you still ask if im suporting it. I guess you will only listen if I say what you want to hear, herre goes. 

Danm thouse violent buhdist, doing this unprovoked gencide just cuz its the religion of peace and they would never dream of retaliating so it wil be easy. Bunch of racist pigs.

Also, I was basing that on the claim that Muslims somehow started it. However, that's ignoring the decades of discrimination against Muslims. In 1982 they were even deprived of their citizenship

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/01/13/burma-amend-biased-citizenship-law

They denied their citinzeship, then they clearly asked for it, death to the infidels. I agree with you, they clearly deserve thouse bombings. How dare them deny them something that is not mandatory.



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eva01beserk said:
VGPolyglot said:

Also, I was basing that on the claim that Muslims somehow started it. However, that's ignoring the decades of discrimination against Muslims. In 1982 they were even deprived of their citizenship

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/01/13/burma-amend-biased-citizenship-law

They denied their citinzeship, then they clearly asked for it, death to the infidels. I agree with you, they clearly deserve thouse bombings. How dare them deny them something that is not mandatory.

You were saying that Muslims started the conflict, I was refuting that by showing that they have been discriminated against for decades.



UN human rights chief points to ‘textbook example of ethnic cleansing’ in Myanmar

 

11 September 2017 – The United Nations human rights chief today lashed out at the treatment of the Rohingya in Myanmar which has led to more than 300,000 people fleeing to Bangladesh in the past three weeks, as security forces and local militia reportedly burn villages and shoot civilians.

“The situation seems a textbook example of ethnic cleansing,” Zeid Ra‘ad al-Hussein told the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, noting that the current situation cannot yet be fully assessed since Myanmar has refused access to human rights investigators.

He cited reports of Myanmar authorities laying landmines along the border with Bangladesh and requiring returnees to provide “proof of nationality,” an impossibility given that successive Myanmar governments have since 1962 progressively stripped the Rohingya population of their political and civil rights, including citizenship rights.

The latest security operation in Rakhine state follows attacks by militants on 25 August against 30 police posts.

The High Commissioner called the response “clearly disproportionate” and “without regard for basic principles of international law,” and said the Government should “stop claiming that the Rohingyas are setting fire to their own homes and laying waste to their own villages.”

“This complete denial of reality is doing great damage to the international standing of a Government which, until recently, benefited from immense good will,” he said.

“I call on the Government to end its current cruel military operation, with accountability for all violations that have occurred and to reverse the pattern of severe and widespread discrimination against the Rohingya population,” he added, calling for his Office (OHCHR) to obtain unfettered access to the country.

Last year, Mr. Zeid issued a report warning that the pattern of gross violations of the human rights of the Rohingya suggested a widespread or systematic attack against the community, possibly amounting to crimes against humanity.

In today’s statement, he also addressed Bangladeshi authorities, encouraging them to maintain open borders for the refugees, and the international community to help support the refugees. Humanitarian agencies in Bangladesh today appealed for $77 million to aid an estimated 300,000 refugees through the end of the year.

At the same time, he deplored measures taken by India, which has said it is not a signatory to the Refugee Convention and can deport Rohingyas.

 

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Things are looking quite bad for sure.

 

And if you're interested in reading about even more evildoings, here's a link to al-Hussein's complete opening statement to the Human Rights Council, which the segment about Myanmar was part of.