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Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

They can have their microphone. And I have the right to boo them off it and call them fascists and counter protest and meet them in force and show them that they are a sad little minority that's only good at one thing -- losing. They have been losing since the 1950s and will continue to pile up the Ls. That too is my right to free speech. 

Which is why Trump is president, right? I mean, if you want to make statements against the hard right, I'm all for it. But let's not put our feet in our mouths.

 

ADDED: Also, what about the aforementioned scenerio where someone have mic rights denied? You know, like a lot of the stuff surrounding the release of The Red Pill.

And so what if he is. He will be gone in 4 years or 8, and he just using these idiots anyway, he himself doesn't give a shit about them. 

The fact is America is already a massive melting pot and there's nothing that can stop that. Majority of all children in the US by 2020 will be of an ethnic group, majority of children under the age of 5 already are in this country, by 2050 it will be a majority minority country and today 40% is non-white already and grows every year because the white demographic is by far the oldest group (and old people tend to die). Their whole "mission" has failed miserably, the US is the most multi-ethnic developed large country in the world by a long shot. All that's left to them now is to be bitter and angry about it. 

The reason why they always lose is hate will always lose, not even because of some love is better than hate kumbaya shit (even though it is true, love does trump hate), but because hate can only sustain so much, it's a self defeating emotion in the long run. Any ideology driven primarily by hate will always have itself exposed for the ugliness that it is. 



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Azuren said:
monocle_layton said:

Thank you.

Liking Superman 64 isn't dangerous. 

 

Being a nazi is dangerous. These people ruin the world when they allow their opinions to misinform others. 

 

Free speech means we should be allowed to shut down these people. I wouldn't want a pro pedophilia rally for the same reason I wouldn't want a white supremacy rally. There's a complete difference between voicing your opinion and voicing dangerous beliefs.

 

We disagree with each other often, but I still think you have the right to express yourself. Why? Because you aren't going to hurt others with your beliefs anytime soon

"Being" a Nazi isn't dangerous. It's hurtful to others' emotions, yes, but emotions aren't protected by law. Running over people with a car is dangerous, which is why this man will go to jail regardless of pretense. Things that are actually dangerous get punished, while things that hurt feelings are not.

 

This is because, just like they have the right to vote, you have the right to ignore.

 

And as a father, I would LOVE a pro-pedophilia rally: anything to get a bunch of them in one place, you know what I'm saying? #FishInABarrel

 

I think our disagreement here stems from the fact that I believe freedom of speech means no one has the right to silence you. Even if you ideas are monstrous, no one can stop you from sharing them short of breaking the law themselves.

The only thing stopping them from being dangerous is the fact that they're a minority.

 



Valdney said:

Supremacists killing supremacists.

That’s exactly what this is. How did USA got in to this shit? I remember perfectly 2008, Obama was elected because the Americans got tired of all the invading wars and the Bush cunts. And then 2014-2015 the shit hit the fan, and all of this racial tension started. People that believe this is happening because of Trump, are blind. This started long before Trump had a chance at the White House. Don’t tell me that all over sudden the whites in America have become racist,even tho, just 6-7 years before all of this happened they voted for a political figure of color. this BS is deeper.

 



ratuscafoarterea said:
Valdney said:

Supremacists killing supremacists.

That’s exactly what this is. How did USA got in to this shit? I remember perfectly 2008, Obama was elected because the Americans got tired of all the invading wars and the Bush cunts. And then 2014-2015 the shit hit the fan, and all of this racial tension started. People that believe this is happening because of Trump, are blind. This started long before Trump had a chance at the White House. Don’t tell me that all over sudden the whites in America have become racist,even tho, just 6-7 years before all of this happened they voted for a political figure of color. this BS is deeper.

 

 

Did you mean to say cuts?



ratuscafoarterea said:
Valdney said:

Supremacists killing supremacists.

That’s exactly what this is. How did USA got in to this shit? I remember perfectly 2008, Obama was elected because the Americans got tired of all the invading wars and the Bush cunts. And then 2014-2015 the shit hit the fan, and all of this racial tension started. People that believe this is happening because of Trump, are blind. This started long before Trump had a chance at the White House. Don’t tell me that all over sudden the whites in America have become racist,even tho, just 6-7 years before all of this happened they voted for a political figure of color. this BS is deeper.

 

 

You don't understand American history. I could post some grisly photos but it's probably against site rules. 

Racism has always been prevalent in America, in the 20s/30s/40s/50s/60s it was so horrific that if there is a hell a lot of people deserve a fast line ticket straight to one from that time period. People burned alive in front of crowds, hung from trees, dragged by cars and disfigured was common American life in the past, spitting/name calling was the mild part of it. 

It's been shamed and beaten since then, but it still rears it's ugly head, the main naivette was that somehow Barack Obama was magically going to wave a wand and make it go away. Hateful bigots are always a thing. 

Racism has an ugly, ugly legacy and it wasn't just going to go away with the snap of a finger. Fortunately it is also very much on the losing side of things today, largely due to the courage and bravery of people who stood up against harsh bigotry 40-50 years ago, but we are still not all the way home. 



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NATO said:
Both sides are stupid and a waste of oxygen.

So, what you're saying is you had hoped he was more successful in running the people over?



Soundwave said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

That’s exactly what this is. How did USA got in to this shit? I remember perfectly 2008, Obama was elected because the Americans got tired of all the invading wars and the Bush cunts. And then 2014-2015 the shit hit the fan, and all of this racial tension started. People that believe this is happening because of Trump, are blind. This started long before Trump had a chance at the White House. Don’t tell me that all over sudden the whites in America have become racist,even tho, just 6-7 years before all of this happened they voted for a political figure of color. this BS is deeper.

 

 

You don't understand American history. I could post some grisly photos but it's probably against site rules. 

Racism has always been prevalent in America, in the 20s/30s/40s/50s/60s it was so horrific that if there is a hell a lot of people deserve a fast line ticket straight to one from that time period. People burned alive in front of crowds, hung from trees, dragged by cars and disfigured was common American life in the past, spitting/name calling was the mild part of it. 

It's been shamed and beaten since then, but it still rears it's ugly head, the main naivette was that somehow Barack Obama was magically going to wave a wand and make it go away. Hateful bigots are always a thing. 

Well, I’m an outsider, but from what I’ve notice racial tensions haven’t been that bad in the last two decades. So why all of a sudden … all of this?



 

 



ratuscafoarterea said:
Soundwave said:

You don't understand American history. I could post some grisly photos but it's probably against site rules. 

Racism has always been prevalent in America, in the 20s/30s/40s/50s/60s it was so horrific that if there is a hell a lot of people deserve a fast line ticket straight to one from that time period. People burned alive in front of crowds, hung from trees, dragged by cars and disfigured was common American life in the past, spitting/name calling was the mild part of it. 

It's been shamed and beaten since then, but it still rears it's ugly head, the main naivette was that somehow Barack Obama was magically going to wave a wand and make it go away. Hateful bigots are always a thing. 

Well, I’m an outsider, but from what I’ve notice racial tensions haven’t been that bad in the last two decades. So why all of a sudden … all of this?

 

There has always been racial tensions. I believe that the internet has made people much more aware of it, though.