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Hiku said:
College tuition is free in many places around the world....

Please keep going.



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Well, there is something to be said about the massive overabundance of people with degree vs. jobs that require those degrees. As a teacher, I know that some teaching positions can have as many as 800+ applications from people with degrees (many of which are working as a substitute or paraprofressional, or some other low paying job just to survive until they can get that job). This would reduce that, but it would also kill opportunity.

The real solution would be for companies to start announcing that they no longer require degrees for certain things. For instance, my wife works at a company that often highers people to work jobs they often don't have degrees in. She herself was a graphics art major, and is doing Uxer Experience design now on a UX team 9a job that didn't exist until recent years).

I am certified in teaching middle school social studies and k-12 special education, yet I am teaching High school social studies (government mainly) which, I know, isn't a massive difference from my degree but still, I'm technically not doing a job I'm "certified in." A lot of people are doing jobs (full paying, career, big money jobs) that have nothing to do with their college degree. This begs the question; How important is having a degree? If it's just a way to rack up tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt that takes 5-20 years to pay off at 4-6% interest, then that is stupid. I recently saw a report that college tuition has gone up like 1000% from somewhere like the 1970's. My wife even told me that her company would higher people to code/program even if they didn't go to college and just learned how to do it in their spare time.

It's time for the college requirement to go for most jobs.



Well a lot of American students go abroad.



We need to remove the idea that everyone needs to get a degree. I've seen too many people in financial ruin because they can't make loan payments.



College prices got inflated through government backed student loans that got poured into the system. The colleges just sucked up all that sweet borrowed money into their administration and raised prices along because they could.

College prices should be half of what they were 10 years ago considering the cost savings of modern technology, eBooks, streaming lectures and economics of scale.

Overall we have to many lightweight degrees that are hardly academic in nature. You are either a hardcore academic in nature or you study something that requires a degree like engineering and can pay for it.



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So, from what I gather, you're promoting accelerationism?



pleaserecycle said:
We need to remove the idea that everyone needs to get a degree. I've seen too many people in financial ruin because they can't make loan payments.

The jobs requiring no higher education are going to disapear quite fast, though, as technology improves.



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palou said:
pleaserecycle said:
We need to remove the idea that everyone needs to get a degree. I've seen too many people in financial ruin because they can't make loan payments.

The jobs requiring no higher education are going to disapear quite fast, though, as technology improves.

Higher education does not equal a college degree. Many jobs like programming, system-networking are better off with specific certificates/boot camps.



palou said:
pleaserecycle said:
We need to remove the idea that everyone needs to get a degree. I've seen too many people in financial ruin because they can't make loan payments.

The jobs requiring no higher education are going to disapear quite fast, though, as technology improves.

Yes, but will colleges adapt or will they continue to offer non-specific degrees like liberal studies?  



vivster said:
SegataSanshiro said:

I concur.

I conconcur.