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CartBlanche on 27 July 2017
Seventizz said:
Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.

As an owner of all adult console this gen and last gen, Xbox has lost its lead in online gaming massively❗ Just not enough people playing. Period. Currently Xbox has 30mil gamers, PS4 has 60million, if you want variety of multi-player opponents, the pure numbers suggest PS4 is where you should be this gen.

 

Please point out what games you enjoy that put gameplay ahead of story? Would you rather the game has no story at all, like a shoot 'em up?

 

I'm a fan of both story and gameplay. Games like Bloodborne, God of War, Last of Us and Uncharted tick those boxes for me.



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derpysquirtle64 on 27 July 2017
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Im going to say this right now......Its Xbox Gamers fault as to why Quantum Break failed.They failed Microsoft there. That could've been a great franchise for XBox.

Totally agree with this. The game was good enough and deserved to sell more



 

Rafie on 27 July 2017
CartBlanche said:
Seventizz said:
Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.

As an owner of all adult console this gen and last gen, Xbox has lost its lead in online gaming massively❗ Just not enough people playing. Period. Currently Xbox has 30mil gamers, PS4 has 60million, if you want variety of multi-player opponents, the pure numbers suggest PS4 is where you should be this gen.

 

Please point out what games you enjoy that put gameplay ahead of story? Would you rather the game has no story at all, like a shoot 'em up?

 

I'm a fan of both story and gameplay. Games like Bloodborne, God of War, Last of Us and Uncharted tick those boxes for me.

I don't know why Xbox fans say that about PlayStation games. Just like how PlayStation fans always say Xbox has only shooters. It's dumb to say that.

I really can't stand that..."if you don't like Japanese games....story driven games". Blah, blah, blah... It sounds super stupid. Then if someone turned around and said if Xbox didn't have shooters and Forza, what would they have?! Folks would be in an uproar. Both false narratives of the Xbox and PlayStation some folks perpetuate here is beyond ridiculous. I will say that PlayStation is definitely more diversein their 1st party. That's not debatable.



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couchmonkey on 27 July 2017

Since this is a sales site, it's reasonable to criticize decisions that impact hardware sales.

Anyway, yes this is consumer friendly, but I think it's coincidentally consumer friendly. Microsoft is trying to hedge its bets since Xbox One is not doing as well as they hoped.



CartBlanche on 28 July 2017
couchmonkey said:
Since this is a sales site, it's reasonable to criticize decisions that impact hardware sales.

Anyway, yes this is consumer friendly, but I think it's coincidentally consumer friendly. Microsoft is trying to hedge its bets since Xbox One is not doing as well as they hoped.

Xbox One being out sold 2 to 1 world wide, 4-5 to 1 in Europe and by some silly number in Japan is basically quite disastrous place to be in with Xbox and rather than nuckle down and just wait till the next gen cycle before announcing Xbox 1 X (silly name) they are playing catch-up.  Basically the week before X1X comes out in November, Sony will drop the price of the PS4 Pro, thus making X1X looks massively overpriced this Xmas. Sony will outsell Xbox, in all its shapes, this holiday season and into 2018. By mid to late 2018 the PS4 brand will out sell Xbox by 3 to 1 world wide. That is unfortunately how it will play out.



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sethnintendo on 28 July 2017
CartBlanche said:
couchmonkey said:
Since this is a sales site, it's reasonable to criticize decisions that impact hardware sales.

Anyway, yes this is consumer friendly, but I think it's coincidentally consumer friendly. Microsoft is trying to hedge its bets since Xbox One is not doing as well as they hoped.

Xbox One being out sold 2 to 1 world wide, 4-5 to 1 in Europe and by some silly number in Japan is basically quite disastrous place to be in with Xbox and rather than nuckle down and just wait till the next gen cycle before announcing Xbox 1 X (silly name) they are playing catch-up.  Basically the week before X1X comes out in November, Sony will drop the price of the PS4 Pro, thus making X1X looks massively overpriced this Xmas. Sony will outsell Xbox, in all its shapes, this holiday season and into 2018. By mid to late 2018 the PS4 brand will out sell Xbox by 3 to 1 world wide. That is unfortunately how it will play out.

Yep, Microsoft is on a downturn and all their IPs are selling less than previous generation.  Microsoft can keep putting out mini PCs or me too systems but it seems like Playstation has taken most their userbase with Nintendo filling in any remaining gamers.  Basically Microsoft can't afford to be a me too system anymore because no one cares about their IPs anymore.



Zoombael on 28 July 2017
Seventizz said:
Everyone keeps touting the playstation brand is the best because of all those exclusives. But what if you don't like japanese gaming or games that prioritize story over and gameplay? And online gaming? It's not even a contest of which brand has that on lock.

I'm an Xbox gamer. And that's fine.

Then you should have reason all the more to critisize Microsoft for being so uncompetitive, uncreative and unproductive.



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derpysquirtle64 on 28 July 2017
CartBlanche said:
couchmonkey said:
Since this is a sales site, it's reasonable to criticize decisions that impact hardware sales.

Anyway, yes this is consumer friendly, but I think it's coincidentally consumer friendly. Microsoft is trying to hedge its bets since Xbox One is not doing as well as they hoped.

Xbox One being out sold 2 to 1 world wide, 4-5 to 1 in Europe and by some silly number in Japan is basically quite disastrous place to be in with Xbox and rather than nuckle down and just wait till the next gen cycle before announcing Xbox 1 X (silly name) they are playing catch-up.  Basically the week before X1X comes out in November, Sony will drop the price of the PS4 Pro, thus making X1X looks massively overpriced this Xmas. Sony will outsell Xbox, in all its shapes, this holiday season and into 2018. By mid to late 2018 the PS4 brand will out sell Xbox by 3 to 1 world wide. That is unfortunately how it will play out.

That's something that definitely won't happen in one year. I think this won't happen at all. Thanks to strong Xbox holiday sales.



 

CartBlanche on 31 July 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
CartBlanche said:

Xbox One being out sold 2 to 1 world wide, 4-5 to 1 in Europe and by some silly number in Japan is basically quite disastrous place to be in with Xbox and rather than nuckle down and just wait till the next gen cycle before announcing Xbox 1 X (silly name) they are playing catch-up.  Basically the week before X1X comes out in November, Sony will drop the price of the PS4 Pro, thus making X1X looks massively overpriced this Xmas. Sony will outsell Xbox, in all its shapes, this holiday season and into 2018. By mid to late 2018 the PS4 brand will out sell Xbox by 3 to 1 world wide. That is unfortunately how it will play out.

That's something that definitely won't happen in one year. I think this won't happen at all. Thanks to strong Xbox holiday sales.

Let me be clear that hard-core gamers and gamers who love to have the latest console system will buy the X1X, but hard-core gamers are not the bread and butter of console sales, aka the masses. With the economic downturn, when Mary goes to buy baby Jesus his first console this holiday season, she won't care what it looks like on 4K compared to High Def. She'll just care about the bang for buck. So that brings it down to Xbox 1 -slim and PS4 Pro or slim in terms of features and price. Due to Sony having close to 70million gamers by November/December and a wider variety of console exclusives, my money is that Mary is going to buy Jesus a PS4 variant.

PS. I'm not religious, I just picked the names for festivity relevance.



derpysquirtle64 on 02 August 2017
CartBlanche said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

That's something that definitely won't happen in one year. I think this won't happen at all. Thanks to strong Xbox holiday sales.

Let me be clear that hard-core gamers and gamers who love to have the latest console system will buy the X1X, but hard-core gamers are not the bread and butter of console sales, aka the masses. With the economic downturn, when Mary goes to buy baby Jesus his first console this holiday season, she won't care what it looks like on 4K compared to High Def. She'll just care about the bang for buck. So that brings it down to Xbox 1 -slim and PS4 Pro or slim in terms of features and price. Due to Sony having close to 70million gamers by November/December and a wider variety of console exclusives, my money is that Mary is going to buy Jesus a PS4 variant.

PS. I'm not religious, I just picked the names for festivity relevance.

You are definitely right about Sony selling more consoles than MS this holiday season. I didn't even doubt this. I've argued about your 3:1 ratio by mid-2018. Which won't happen at all. Even by the end of this generation, Sony won't be able to outsell Xbox 3:1. Also, you seem to forget that Xbox is doing almost 1:1 in the US, the biggest console market, so they will sell a lot of consoles this holiday season there as well. So, your argument about Mary going to buy baby Jesus his first console works for Xbox as well. At least in US. They've got a huge marketing which will help them a lot.