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It seems that all regions that have a significant Muslim population become havens for terrorism and separatism.
Muslims get a , we vs them , mentality the moment they gather into significant numbers.
Islam (Sunni/Wahhabi) is a waste , a total bat-shit crazy ideology and way of life.

Screw political correctness , it is clear that all Religions and way of life are NOT equal. Why should we give them equal treatment and behavour towards them? Like a rabiddog , Islam needs to be put down.



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Moac said:

It seems that all regions that have a significant Muslim population become havens for terrorism and separatism.
Muslims get a , we vs them , mentality the moment they gather into significant numbers.
Islam (Sunni/Wahhabi) is a waste , a total bat-shit crazy ideology and way of life.

Screw political correctness , it is clear that all Religions and way of life are NOT equal. Why should we give them equal treatment and behavour towards them? Like a rabiddog , Islam needs to be put down.

Islam needs to be put down? Please tell me how you plan to "put down" almost 2 billion adherents! I'm so anxious to hear your solution, though I fear the word "solution" might itself wind up making an appearance in the name of your grand plan. :p

I have a feeling that, regardless of method, it would necessitate brutal and inhumane behavior of a kind that would make Kublai Khan and Vlad the Impaler blush.



Johnw1104 said:
Moac said:

It seems that all regions that have a significant Muslim population become havens for terrorism and separatism.
Muslims get a , we vs them , mentality the moment they gather into significant numbers.
Islam (Sunni/Wahhabi) is a waste , a total bat-shit crazy ideology and way of life.

Screw political correctness , it is clear that all Religions and way of life are NOT equal. Why should we give them equal treatment and behavour towards them? Like a rabiddog , Islam needs to be put down.

Islam needs to be put down? Please tell me how you plan to "put down" almost 2 billion adherents! I'm so anxious to hear your solution, though I fear the word "solution" might itself wind up making an appearance in the name of your grand plan. :p

I have a feeling that, regardless of method, it would necessitate brutal and inhumane behavior of a kind that would make Kublai Khan and Vlad the Impaler blush.

My Solution to the problem would involve several steps.

Firstly, let us name Islam as an evil abhorrent , let us be clear to classify it as an unfit religion for the West, let us discriminate against it. Let us forbid the construction of ANY new Islamic structures on our soul. Let us deport any and all Muslims that show signs of Extremism such as supporting Sharia or adhering to Islamic clothing practices.

Secondly, The solution would involve the limitation of any muslims entering the west, the ones that are willing to leave Islam are to be let in, and even they should have tags on them and monitored for a decade or so until we can determine that they are less of a treat.

Thirdly, In schools Islam should not be depicted as just another religion but rather depicted as an political and Social cult that is akin to Fascism & Communism. Even the name of Islam and Muslims should have a bad taste in the mouth of people , it should be viewed as an Insult.  With sufficient indoctrination i think all that could be possible.

Those are the first few steps that should be done and ofcourse those steps (in most part) do apply to : Orthodox Judaism (if not willing to comply to local rules,  dress codes, way of life and assimilation processes) , third wave feminism & Extreme-Liberalism. All those should be labeld as wicked and depicted in the most negative light.



Moac said:

It seems that all regions that have a significant Muslim population become havens for terrorism and separatism.
Muslims get a , we vs them , mentality the moment they gather into significant numbers.
Islam (Sunni/Wahhabi) is a waste , a total bat-shit crazy ideology and way of life.

Screw political correctness , it is clear that all Religions and way of life are NOT equal. Why should we give them equal treatment and behavour towards them? Like a rabiddog , Islam needs to be put down.

"Putting down" Islam is impractical because it would require world world 3 and alot of people on the non-Islam side to believe in doing that. The only way Islam would die out is if people stop believing in it. It's no different than how any other religion might become a mythology. 

Islam in and of itself is okay but a sizable portion of it's believers are extremists or could easily become one. The religion needs to be reformed. I'm all for practical non-pc solutions that would protect the world from Islamic extremists and aid middle eastern countries in reforming the religion/wiping out the extremists. 



Fact is a lot of Westerners Considers only the Chinese, Korean,Japanese, (and the other slant eyed ethnic group) and South east asia member nations as asians,



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Army and police should make no prisoners in such cases, as such demented bastards become fundamentalist preachers in prisons, where quite a worrying percentage of fundamentalists in non muslim majority countries come from.



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binary solo said:
TheWPCTraveler said:

The Problem with the Philippines is that there is a very porous sea border, especially to the south. What compounds matters is that historically, the people of what used to be the Sulu sultanate were linked more closely to what is now Malaysia, than to the rest of the Philippines. This means that you can't really rely on ethnic nationalism (mind you, successfully utlized by Kemalists in Turkey) to suppress religious extremism.

I'm pretty disappointed that the thread devolved into a fight over semantics regarding countries that aren't even close to the Philippines or people virtue-signalling about "muh Duterte kills drug addicts" or trashing the Philippines as a whole.

I'm at least hoping that the army can get its act together and that Duterte is a lot better than Noynoy over handling of sensitive military operations.

wsell, someone did open the door saying "Asians" don't play around when it comes to terrorism. So that was a non-Philippines specific statement. Now if the statement had simply been "Filippinos don't play around with terrorism" things might not have spiralled. But given the Muslim seperatist history of the Philippines it's arguable that Filippinos don't play around with this sort of thing.

Not sure Duterte and "sensitive" really go together. Kind of like Trump and natural sun tan don't go together. So I wouldn't hold your breath on that.

Oh, we don't play around. It's just that the terrain is just great for guerillas. It's part of how Japan had so much trouble holding locations that weren't along the coast or in urban settings during World War II.

It's also part of why the NPA is still marauding around (the other part being that it is currently fashionable to be an outright "communist" in some public universities, thus easier recruits...)



 
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IglesianiManalo said:

Fact is a lot of Westerners Considers only the Chinese, Korean,Japanese, (and the other slant eyed ethnic group) and South east asia member nations as asians,

I smiled a bit when reading that. You mean the Mongols, right?
In any case, what a lot of people tend to think regarding Asian ethnic groups is centred around East and South East Asia.

It's almost as if India is a subcontinent with a distinct identity, that Arabs have a separate set of identities, and that the Turkic peoples of Central Asia are not...relevant. In the eyes of a Westerner, of course.



 
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barneystinson69 said:
AsGryffynn said:
Before you all end up embroiled in a debacle involving semantics and linguistic fads, Asia Minor has been used to refer to anything east of the Bosphorus. The Near East has been used to refer to what would be considered Turkey, the Middle East is a rather new term used to refer to Arabia and Persia and the Far East to East and Southern/Southeast Asia.

East = Asia. The only exception is really Russia, which isn't an exception because most work in the Northern Districts that are between the Sarmatic region and the Urals, which are considered European.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_East

It isn't called the "near-east" anymore. Otherwise, the balkans could also be part of it. Also, Turkey is part of the Middle East as well.

Hence past tense. >P



Ka-pi96 said:
Moac said:

My Solution to the problem would involve several steps.

Firstly, let us name Islam as an evil abhorrent , let us be clear to classify it as an unfit religion for the West, let us discriminate against it. Let us forbid the construction of ANY new Islamic structures on our soul. Let us deport any and all Muslims that show signs of Extremism such as supporting Sharia or adhering to Islamic clothing practices.

Secondly, The solution would involve the limitation of any muslims entering the west, the ones that are willing to leave Islam are to be let in, and even they should have tags on them and monitored for a decade or so until we can determine that they are less of a treat.

Thirdly, In schools Islam should not be depicted as just another religion but rather depicted as an political and Social cult that is akin to Fascism & Communism. Even the name of Islam and Muslims should have a bad taste in the mouth of people , it should be viewed as an Insult.  With sufficient indoctrination i think all that could be possible.

Those are the first few steps that should be done and ofcourse those steps (in most part) do apply to : Orthodox Judaism (if not willing to comply to local rules,  dress codes, way of life and assimilation processes) , third wave feminism & Extreme-Liberalism. All those should be labeld as wicked and depicted in the most negative light.

Didn't you say that the problem was that muslims have an "us vs them" mentality?

So your solution is.... an "us vs them" mentality? You get the irony, right?

Of course, the optimal solution here to combat Islamic fundamentalism is that we do the exact same thing as them except from a secular angle. /s