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SpokenTruth said:
thismeintiel said:

Having no skin in this game, I just find it hilarious how hypocritical both sides are being. First, the left hated him for investigating the Hillary email scandal, while the right loved him. Then, the left loved him for letting Hillary off the hook, while the right hated him (I will say it was ridiculous she got away with it, when a normal citizen would be in jail, now.) Then, he released the statement about finding more evidence in Anthony Weiner's emails, so the left went back to hating him and the right loved him. Now, they've switched sides, again, just because one side hates Trump no matter what he does.

What's really funny is not only how hypocritical people are being, but also how ingenious they are. Make no mistake, if Hillary had won, she would have fired him, too. Mainly for revenge. But also because he seemed to actually be doing his job, plus speaking truth to power. And guess what, the left would have supported it 100%, while the right would be bringing up Nixon. You people have chosen sides and will support it no matter what. Your guy is a rich slimeball like the other guy, both using the system to get rich on the taxpayer's dollar? Well, just ignore it, or come up with shitty excuses why one isn't as bad as the other. It's why Washington is so corrupt right now. It's exactly what George Washington warned us about forming parties.

And the normal American can't even keep up with what their party wants. When Stephen Colbert reported this, his audience cheered. That's because up until that point, their party was telling them they hated Comey and he should be fired. But, since they figured they could make some political points with this, now they no longer hate him. Colbert had to correct his audience like a bunch of trained monkeys, calling them Trump supporters and then bringing up Sessions, a man they've been trained to automatically hate.

Completely pathetic on both sides.

I'm just going to copy/paste what I said recently.

Had Trump fired Comey the first week of office, he would had scored big points with Democrats.  But the timing of it now is highly suspicious.  Let's take a look at the timeline, shall we?

Oct 28, Trump praises Comey for his handling of the Clinton email case.
Jan 22, Trump praises Comey again and asks him to stay on board as FBI director.
March 2, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recuses himself from Russia investigations because he is under that investigation.
April 25, Rod Rosenstein sworn in as Deputy Attorney General to oversee Russia investigation.
May 8, Comey asks Rosenstein for more money for the Russia investigation.
May 9, Sessions (who is supposed to be recused) and Rosenstein advise Trump to fire Comey because of "how he handled the Clinton email case".
May 9, Trump fires Comey.  Comey learns of it via news on TV.
May 10, Trump meets with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.  US media not allowed in.  Russian media allowed in.

How does this not look bad?

Worth noting on that timeline is that Sessions also praised how Comey handled Clinton, before suddenly recommending to fire him because of that.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ag-sessions-praised-comeys-handling-clintons-email-investigation/story?id=47327009

Their explanation just doesn't make any sense. If they did it because they wanted to adhere to the critics, they would have done it right after Trump got into office. Not after Comey announced that there is an ongoing investigation that he is heading about Trump's ties to Russia, and asking for more funding for that investigation.



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Lol, and a bunch of people come to prove my point. Poor excuses to why their side isn't as bad, knowing full well that if Hillary won they would fully support her firing him. Even if he was still investigating her emails. Both sides are just freaking pathetic on this.



thismeintiel said:

Having no skin in this game, I just find it hilarious how hypocritical both sides are being. First, the left hated him for investigating the Hillary email scandal, while the right loved him. Then, the left loved him for letting Hillary off the hook, while the right hated him (I will say it was ridiculous she got away with it, when a normal citizen would be in jail, now.) Then, he released the statement about finding more evidence in Anthony Weiner's emails, so the left went back to hating him and the right loved him. Now, they've switched sides, again, just because one side hates Trump no matter what he does.

What's really funny is not only how hypocritical people are being, but also how ingenious they are. Make no mistake, if Hillary had won, she would have fired him, too. Mainly for revenge. But also because he seemed to actually be doing his job, plus speaking truth to power. And guess what, the left would have supported it 100%, while the right would be bringing up Nixon. You people have chosen sides and will support it no matter what. Your guy is a rich slimeball like the other guy, both using the system to get rich on the taxpayer's dollar? Well, just ignore it, or come up with shitty excuses why one isn't as bad as the other. It's why Washington is so corrupt right now. It's exactly what George Washington warned us about forming parties.

And the normal American can't even keep up with what their party wants. When Stephen Colbert reported this, his audience cheered. That's because up until that point, their party was telling them they hated Comey and he should be fired. But, since they figured they could make some political points with this, now they no longer hate him. Colbert had to correct his audience like a bunch of trained monkeys, calling them Trump supporters and then bringing up Sessions, a man they've been trained to automatically hate.

Completely pathetic on both sides.

If you actually knew what you're talking about, you would realize that there is nothing hypocritical about the current accusations.



Hiku said:

Worth noting on that timeline is that Sessions also praised how Comey handled Clinton, before suddenly recommending to fire him because of that.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ag-sessions-praised-comeys-handling-clintons-email-investigation/story?id=47327009

Their explanation just doesn't make any sense. If they did it because they wanted to adhere to the critics, they would have done it right after Trump got into office. Not after Comey announced that there is an ongoing investigation that he is heading about Trump's ties to Russia, and asking for more funding for that investigation.

To add to this, Trump is now insisting that he planned to fire Comey regardless of what the Attorney General or Deputy Attorney General had recommended, it was his idea, etc, etc. So at this point we can pretty safely set aside any matter of the motivations of either Sessions or whats-his-name Deputy fella, because Trump is officially taking full credit/blame for the decision. 

The clip can be found in this article; https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/05/11/trump-just-said-he-was-going-to-fire-comey-all-along-contradicting-his-earlier-lie.html



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thismeintiel said:
Lol, and a bunch of people come to prove my point. Poor excuses to why their side isn't as bad, knowing full well that if Hillary won they would fully support her firing him. Even if he was still investigating her emails. Both sides are just freaking pathetic on this.

You not having a counter argument, but merely repeating what you said, as if it wasn't dismantled already, shows that you didn't think things through before you posted.

Yes, people wouldn't be this concerned if Hillary won and fired Comey immediately. That does nothing for your point because no one disagred with that assessment in the first place.

Your argument here is that because you had a particular stance due to Information A, changing that stance after recieving information B is hypocritical.
Which is absolute nonsense.

P.S. I had no opinions on whether or not Comey should have been fired last year for what he did. Never have I uttered a single word about that, as I didn't have enough knowledge to assess the situation. This however is very different. I suggest you actually read what people said, and discuss it like an adult with facts.



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thismeintiel said:
Lol, and a bunch of people come to prove my point. Poor excuses to why their side isn't as bad, knowing full well that if Hillary won they would fully support her firing him. Even if he was still investigating her emails. Both sides are just freaking pathetic on this.

Why wasn't he fired under Obama?



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thismeintiel said:
Lol, and a bunch of people come to prove my point. Poor excuses to why their side isn't as bad, knowing full well that if Hillary won they would fully support her firing him. Even if he was still investigating her emails. Both sides are just freaking pathetic on this.

How about you use facts instead of what if scenarios to make a point?



thismeintiel said:
Lol, and a bunch of people come to prove my point. Poor excuses to why their side isn't as bad, knowing full well that if Hillary won they would fully support her firing him. Even if he was still investigating her emails. Both sides are just freaking pathetic on this.

I'm a registered Republican with no love for Clinton.

Perhaps you should actually read what people write instead of assuming, pointing fingers and playing the 'what if' game.



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Zanten said:

To add to this, Trump is now insisting that he planned to fire Comey regardless of what the Attorney General or Deputy Attorney General had recommended, it was his idea, etc, etc. So at this point we can pretty safely set aside any matter of the motivations of either Sessions or whats-his-name Deputy fella, because Trump is officially taking full credit/blame for the decision. 

The clip can be found in this article; https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/05/11/trump-just-said-he-was-going-to-fire-comey-all-along-contradicting-his-earlier-lie.html

Yeah I saw just now, but he may take this back tomorrow when his advisors inform him that he shouldn't have admitted to that.
Like he did after he admitted that he didn't read the executive orders he signed, but then took it back the next day.





Balances and checks; GOP is continually destroying our political process by allowing autocratic measures taken by the WH.



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