I'm going to say no. I'm sure Xbox fans will be happy, but for the mainstream, I doubt the advantage it has over the Pro is going to warrant the $100-$150 price difference. Hell, if MS actually prices this at $499, like many expect, and Sony still decide to go super aggressive and drop the Pro to $299, that's a $200 difference. This thing will be done before it even begins. That's not even mentioning the beastly PS5 we'll start hearing about sometime next year.

Those people hoping for Ryzen CPU and a better GPU than first announced must be greatly disappointed. This thing is basically a PS4 Pro+. I'm guessing that's why they didn't make a big deal about announcing the specs themselves.

Isnt the main selling point being able to play in 4K? I know 4K TVs are growing in popularity but i would have to assume that the current adoption rate is still pretty low and needs a few more years to mature. I just feel like by the time 4K TVs become the norm, it will be around the time PS5 & XB4 will be released making Pro/Scorpio sort of pointless.

Im gonna throw a theory out there and i could be off base but a little over a decade ago when PS3/360 released we saw alot of developers struggle with the transition to HD. Could these mid-gen upgrades be sort of a way to make the transition to 4K go a bit smoother for developers?

I don't think there is a single ps4 pro game that has 4k resolution and 4k textures. Forza 6 already able to acheive this according to df and it was unoptimized.

Seems like it'll be powerful, I'm somewhat concerned about the CPU just basically being an upclocked Jaguar, guess if they had gone with a Ryzen CPU the price would have been 600+ at that point.

Ka-pi96 said: TBH I've barely seen any hype for it so... if unless you're saying the lack of hype is justified? And my thoughts on it? Meh, really could not care less. Got my standard Xbox One and I see no reason to re-buy a console I already own.

It was the number 1 most trending subject on twitter for a few hours with 120k tweets. 

This. 11 million people in NA own 4k TVs and Sony expects 15% of Americanew homes to own a 4k TV by years end, and in 4 years that number is expected to be 50%.

Same for me, there is currently 0 games i care for in the X1/Scorpio (and MS cancelled the only one i cared for), and if i really cared that much for power i would just game on my PC, That being said its not like power isnt important after all it is a nice thing to have, just not the main reason why i would ever buy a console.

I believe PS4 Pro is unnecessary and Scorpio will be even further. Hasn't the PS4 Pro sales already proved that none of this matters?

I'm excited about it. I know most on here think the PS4 Pro and Scorpio are useless because next gen is coming soon anyway. I have a feeling that the Ps4Pro and Scorpio are going to extend this gen out a little longer.
I don't think either Sony or Microsoft talks about next gen for at least 5 years 4 the earliest. They are going to want to make as much back as possible on these systems.
I also think Sony won't drop the price on the PS4Pro this year. The majority of their sales come from the Slim. Scorpio will not put a dent in PS4 sales. Scorpio might help out in sales and mindshare in North America but overall/globally, Sony is fine.

thanks for the data, 2020 is around when i expect PS5/XB4 to release.