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tak13 on 07 April 2017
torok said:
tak13 said:

Yeah... In the west!

Things are different in Japan!

3DS has sold almost 500k so far  and it's yoy up, while its predecessor and percursor of its predecessor were extremly down yoy in the same time frame!

3DS is lucky, switch hardware nature ( which reminds the wii u ) ,  lack of 3DS  bc, software and hardware prices very big difference, 3DS still being supported and switch doesn't have the handheld ips yet!

Hence, the majority of people ( OUTSIDE GAMING FORUMS ) see it more like a wii u successor for the moment... Thus, wii u sales have fell of a cliff even since the switch release date announcement!

Even if Nintendo ceases the software support, 3DS could keeping doing well due to switch being overly expensive compared to 3DS/2DS!

Some people will prefer to spend 5000 yen for Pokemon s or m and 10.000 yen for a 2ds than 7000 yen for a Pokemon switch and 29.000 yen for switch.

And for the average handheld console  gamer, graphical superiority doesn't count, at least it does not count more than the affordability of software and hardware.

A more portable and afforable for the handheld console gamer, switch version should kill it...

I would say that pricing itself it's the main factor. The Switch has a home console price, as a handheld it is insanely expensive. I can see a dockless version down the road with a better price point to kill 3DS.
                               

So we agree!

To be punctilious, it  not just have the price of a home console, its games  also has the price of home console games... Although, that's justifiable given how much technically superior are its games over  those of 3DS thanks to the advanced compared to 3DS ( or even psv ) , switch hardware! However, I'm not sure that the average handheld console gamer is  much interested in graphical level, cpu power e.t.c!

So the main problem is the combination of these not the hardware price on its own.

I was used to include durable between more  portable and affordable! Switch was seeming fragile to me ( when it comes to abuse from kids ) but people persuaded me for the opposite... 

 



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torok on 07 April 2017
tak13 said:
So we agree!

To be punctilious, it  not just have the price of a home console, its games  also has the price of home console games... Although, that's justifiable given how much technically superior are its games over  those of 3DS thanks to the advanced compared to 3DS ( or even psv ) , switch hardware! However, I'm not sure that the average handheld console gamer is  much interested in graphical level, cpu power e.t.c!

So the main problem is the combination of these not the hardware price on its own.

I was used to include durable between more  portable and affordable! Switch was seeming fragile to me ( when it comes to abuse from kids ) but people persuaded me for the opposite...  

 

Yes, I forgot about the price difference for games, that is also substantial. All this expensive stuff also will make parents think twice before buying one for their kids. The 3DS is cheap to replace, the Switch is a bit more expensive.



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tak13 on 07 April 2017
torok said:
tak13 said:
So we agree!

To be punctilious, it  not just have the price of a home console, its games  also has the price of home console games... Although, that's justifiable given how much technically superior are its games over  those of 3DS thanks to the advanced compared to 3DS ( or even psv ) , switch hardware! However, I'm not sure that the average handheld console gamer is  much interested in graphical level, cpu power e.t.c!

So the main problem is the combination of these not the hardware price on its own.

I was used to include durable between more  portable and affordable! Switch was seeming fragile to me ( when it comes to abuse from kids ) but people persuaded me for the opposite...  

 

Yes, I forgot about the price difference for games, that is also substantial. All this expensive stuff also will make parents think twice before buying one for their kids. The 3DS is cheap to replace, the Switch is a bit more expensive.

Yeah, I have said this too...

Anyway, at least an initial price of 299$ for a home consoles isn't high, plus that this special piece of hardware allows you to keep playing what you were playing on tv lying on the sofa, anywhere inside outside home and anyhow.

Also, it's a great deal for people who spent 500$ for a wii u and 3DS or for people who like both the gaming ways but couldn't afford or weren't willing to expend 500$ for a wii u and a 3DS.

The issue is with the handheld console only gamers, who would want a more portable  device ( only the length of switch is the problem )  and of course a lot cheaper ( they will have to pay  way more for a swith and a game than 3DS and the counterpart game ) , and parents who would want for their kids,  a more durable switch and fairly cheaper to make the ability of rebuying in  case of breaking down , easier.