Those reviews can say what they like.  I personally haven't seen my i7 outperform in any catigory as my Ryzen 7.  It's the same exact card, I swapped it out of my old machine and put it into the new one.  Much of those reviews are compairing things to the 7700k, which I do not have.  I have the 4790k.  So, there's no reason for me to consider those benchmarks.   7700k is faster than the 4790k.  But, not enough to justify me buying it.  

I don't understand how a stable 60, or 90 fps isn't good for gaming.  Again, I have an R9 390x.  No GTX 980, nor GTX 1070.  I'm going to buy a GTX 1080 Ti and pair it with my Ryzen 7.

Games aren't even made with 8 cores in mind today.  That's going to change.  As it does, those 4 core chips will get worse and worse.  I, however, needed more than 4 cores.  I had severe stuttering, and chopping.  I can load Overwatch on both PCs, use the same settings and record the footage, and it would drop into unplayability (sub 30FPS) meanwhile, I can get a stable, 60 fps with no frame drops on my ryzen 7 in neither the gameplay, or the recorded footage.

Perfect example, right here.... This was taken on my i7.  The gameplay is dropping frames, the video is also dropping frames, which makes the game look like it's stuttering more than it actually is, it's 30FPS, blurry, and the graphic settings are mostly low/medium, and it still couldn't hold a steady in game, 60FPS.

Ryzen 7 let me put every setting on max, and I got a solid, no dip 60 FPS, with video footage looking 1-1, as far as I can tell.  I

If you dont need 8 cores, don't get Ryzen.

Never going back to quality like this.

What you are saying does not make sense to me :)

Intel CPUs and esp. the highend i7 are just better than AMD R7... I mean this has nothing to do with "what the reviews says"; it is just about numbers and performance. I understand that you are fine because in any case your rig can run your games at max settings at 60/90FPS; therefor fine, your choice is good. Also the price is a factor and maybe the quality vs price is better at the end with the R7 as the highend i7 are almost the double I think... 

I just assumed you wanted to buy the best CPU for your rig which is not the case, so yah your choice is fine. And it will not prevent you to run the games at max settings and for the cost, yes you made a way better choice based on your comments and esp. for that price tag. Congratulations for your new CPU :)

Also you talk like the i7 does not come in a 8 cores format. It does.

The thing is if the 4C/8T Kaby LAke is already the better game's performer now, it only stands to reason the 6C/12T consumer i7 on the way ( with further IPC improvements) sounds like a plausible upgrade for those gamers who would like some more cores/threads without sacrificing the best FPS.

Most gamers with i5's as far back as the 2500K still have time to consider what is on the table in the next year.

I don't get the 'games aren't made with 8 cores in mind today, that is soon going to change' , when XBO/PS4 and AMD FX were on the market in the 2011-2013 window....

Fast Forward 4-5 years and i5/i7 Quad's still rule the top end even on  threaded games, and i3 dual core's still rule the budget segment. Intel's Core i products have legs and they squeeze the most out of their CPU's.

What I am waiting for is to see intel's response... Yes the core i series beats Ryzen in gaming benchmarks but Ryzen isn't exactly very far behind... And on other workloads, Ryzen is certainly performing pretty close. Given that Ryzen is a new platform and the games aren't quite all that optimized for it yet, I think Intel will drop the price across the board. So right now, I don't see myself buying any intel setup but if they drop the price for all their products but say, keeps the equivalent $100sh more than Ryzen's counterpart, then I will probably get the intel one.

But if they actually don't drop the prices at all... 110% Ryzen.

I'm not spending 1000+ dollars on a CPU.  It's not happening.  I've done my own tests.  I own a 4790k.  I own an 1800x.  It performs better.  Better frame rates, and I could also do better graphics settings, while also being able to do other tasks at the same time, like streaming/recording that again, i could not do on my 4790k.

Whatever potential 3, or 4 frames I could be missing out on, from whomever knows where, will be completely nullified when I get my GTX 1080 Ti later this week.  I didn't just need a solely gaming PC.  By what you're telling me, I could have just upgraded the GPU and been done with it.

If I were showing any sort of loyalty, I wouldn't pair a GTX 1080 Ti with a Ryzen 7 CPU.  If this were the comments I'd get from people's hear-say, I'm glad I didn't ask for suggestions.  I'm glad I can say I own both. Most people aren't going to do that.

AMD is forcing intel to drop prices. AMD is restoring order.  We need competition to drive development.  I'm happy with my Ryzen, and I will sell my I7 PC.  The entire thing.  I didn't cheap out, and skip on hard drives, power supply, and a case.

All that said, though, I think you're being sarcastic anyway.  But, just in case you weren't...

I think a lot of people who are jumping on the Ryzen hate couldn't afford to own a Ryzen CPU... forget having both Ryzen and i7 at the same time.

Man... I have no idea where you are coming with all of this lol

Highend i7 > Ryzen 7 1800x... Simple and not related to what you "believe" or not, not talking about your setup or things you are doing with but in general based on benchmarks and performances. There are LOT of different version of the i7...

Now, this has nothing to do with "AMD Hate" or "Intel fanboyism" ... Why are you even bringing this up? You seem to have some issues between Intel and AMD, not me.

I do not care at all. a CPU is a CPU, no matter what  company is building it. And yes, Intel CPU are more expensive, but there is a reason and it is not the brand, whatever you want/chose to believe. Now, if you do not want to pay that price, I respect that and completly understand and even congratulated you on it; and for that price range I believe it is an excelent choice of CPU...

No need to come up with all this hate thing about AMD lol