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The line to some is however if you offend someone.

The issue is people all get offended differently



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Pemalite said:

Freedom of speech has never allowed you to state whatever you desired anyway, because you have other freedoms and law protections that prevent that.

I can't go around and say that you have Chlamydia and preach that I am expressing my freedom to speech, because what I am doing there is making a false claim which is libel and can be prosecuted under the law.

You can have Political Correctness and Freedom of Speech, provided you don't cross a line.

Equity is probably what comes after equality. This graphic is probably a good example of what that is.

*snip*

Yes there are libel laws but even then you don't go to jail for falsified claims, you pay a fine ... 

You really can't have Free of Speech and Political Correctness since there at odds with each other. Political Correctness's unintended goal is to eliminate unpopular speech and Freedon of Speech has NO VALUE if it can't do that ... 

The definition of equity is vague anyways when people have a different idea of what's "fair or "impartial" ...



Trunkin said:
WTF! nigahiga is still alive!? He used to be the #1 most subscribed on Youtube. Where has he been?

He's been improving his content. Even though he isn't #1, his videos are simply much higher quality than many other people. By not resorting to dirty humour/reaction videos and avoiding drama, his channel has managed to stay highly successful.

 

He'll probably never be #1 again. With pewdiepie at 53,000,000, that's just too much to pass. I don't mind though, as his stuff only gets better and better.



monocle_layton said:
Trunkin said:
WTF! nigahiga is still alive!? He used to be the #1 most subscribed on Youtube. Where has he been?

He's been improving his content. Even though he isn't #1, his videos are simply much higher quality than many other people. By not resorting to dirty humour/reaction videos and avoiding drama, his channel has managed to stay highly successful.

 

He'll probably never be #1 again. With pewdiepie at 53,000,000, that's just too much to pass. I don't mind though, as his stuff only gets better and better.

So he is still making videos? Does he still do skits? I thought he might have retired from Youtube like KevJumba.



I hope this PC era just hurrys up and ends. We need to get out of this pussy generation.



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Trunkin said:
monocle_layton said:

He's been improving his content. Even though he isn't #1, his videos are simply much higher quality than many other people. By not resorting to dirty humour/reaction videos and avoiding drama, his channel has managed to stay highly successful.

 

He'll probably never be #1 again. With pewdiepie at 53,000,000, that's just too much to pass. I don't mind though, as his stuff only gets better and better.

So he is still making videos? Does he still do skits? I thought he might have retired from Youtube like KevJumba.

Definitely. Kevjumba retired for religious reasons I think.

 

I rarely use youtube anymore, so seeing ryan's videos is always nice 



monocle_layton said:
Trunkin said:

So he is still making videos? Does he still do skits? I thought he might have retired from Youtube like KevJumba.

Definitely. Kevjumba retired for religious reasons I think.

 

I rarely use youtube anymore, so seeing ryan's videos is always nice 

Yeah, I used to watch a lot more totally original Youtube content. Now it's mostly clips and reviews of games, anime, and tennis. I'll have to check out nigahiga's newer stuff, tho.



fatslob-:O said:

Yes there are libel laws but even then you don't go to jail for falsified claims, you pay a fine ... 

 

Depends on severity, once you damage someones reputation they may suffer from hardship, either monetary, social etc'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law#Criminal_defamation

9 people have been jailed in 12 years. (Check the citation, which sends you to a Database.)


fatslob-:O said:

You really can't have Free of Speech and Political Correctness since there at odds with each other. Political Correctness's unintended goal is to eliminate unpopular speech and Freedon of Speech has NO VALUE if it can't do that ...


They aren't really at odds.
Political Correctness helps create equality, reduce discrimination, reduce vitriolic attacks against various demographics.

Freedom of Speech, again, before Political Correctness was even a "thing" never entitled you to say whatever you desired, there was always restrictions on what you can say... And that would have continued with or without political correctness.

fatslob-:O said:

The definition of equity is vague anyways when people have a different idea of what's "fair or "impartial" ...

Hence why you push for equality first, once you get everyone equalised, you can then see who needs to be focused on.



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Pemalite said:

Depends on severity, once you damage someones reputation they may suffer from hardship, either monetary, social etc'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law#Criminal_defamation

9 people have been jailed in 12 years. (Check the citation, which sends you to a Database.)

They aren't really at odds.
Political Correctness helps create equality, reduce discrimination, reduce vitriolic attacks against various demographics.

Freedom of Speech, again, before Political Correctness was even a "thing" never entitled you to say whatever you desired, there was always restrictions on what you can say... And that would have continued with or without political correctness.

Hence why you push for equality first, once you get everyone equalised, you can then see who needs to be focused on.

Well thank god the US consitution doesn't make any mentions of protection from libel or any federal laws about libel either ... (Just be sure to stay away from the states that will enact libel laws and I'm sure one day there'll be an individually progressive supreme court that'll rule them unconstitutional ...)

Political Correctness is most certainly at odds with Free Speech when offense is in the eye of the beholder ... (What one individual may find offensive where another individual doesn't will create a precendent for chaos.) 

Actually you could be entitled to have said whatever you wanted just after the constitutional convention but after a series of supreme court developments that was retroavtively ruled away ... 



Pemalite said:
LadyJasmine said:
The thing about PC culture is that it just outrage to outrage about issues.

While legit issues are forgotten about.

"Political Correctness" is a term that is used by the far right, mostly so they can undermine an argument and disregard it completely by simply using that term to attack the individual/outlet instead to sidestep the argument completely.

Political Correctness is about trying to avoid offense or disadvantage to various demographics, that's not a bad thing in moderation, we should all strive for  equality and equity and all that.

To be fair; this is exactly the same strategy that the far left uses to avoid answering difficult questions, here in Sweden they call people nazis and fascists just as often as others claim political correctness is ruining the debate. People also have tendency to think "if you don't agree with me, you agree with my opposition, there is no middle ground". It's ludicrously polarized and staggeringly counter-productive and the debates are either at a complete standstill or quite simply non-existant.

Honestly; I despise the far left and far right equally, they both cause harm, the main difference is that one is easier, and more accepted, to hate. When I refuse to take an extreme standpoint in various issues here, people accuse me either being misinformed, ignorant and even cowardly, they just cannot fathom that someone sees the world in color and not simply black & white.