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So many people jumping on the bandwagon instead of digging for actual information. 

The Wall Street Journal has put integrity to the side to make a hit piece. 

Denzel said it as it is:



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GribbleGrunger said:
monocle_layton said:

I really don't wanna use this argument, but why do so many of the European Americans I see who visit Europe frequently never mention this as a huge issue? During the summer I visited Amsterdam, from the upper class to the lower class and didn't have too many issues (I got tired from all the biking you have to do). Either Amsterdam isn't heavily involved in the issue, or I looked in the wrong places and asked the wrong people.

 

I guess the only reason I haven't really learned more about the immigrant issue is because both sides of the media apparently show what the media doesn't want me to see. Liberal news stations claim it, conservative stations do it as well- it is a clear mess. As much as I dislike staying ignorant on a subject, I really would prefer to know nothing about it than to only have biased sources.

Trust me, I didn't want it to be true. I've voted Labour all my life and risked life and limb arguing against homophobia, sexism, racism and supported any other groups that weren't there to defend themselves. I've also lost jobs with the disabled and the elderly because I couldn't just pretend what I was seeing was normal in order to keep my job. I HATE racism, but this isn't racism. It's just that the media are painting it that way in order to justify hiding it away from the masses. Look into it and you'll probably be as shocked as me. You'll come across videos presented by decent people but unfortunately you'll also find videos presented by less savoury characters who obviously have an aggenda. BUT, the sheer weight of 'actual' footage becomes impossible to ignore once you're passed the point of ignoring it.

For something that the media is supposedly trying to hide, it sure is getting a lot of attention in the media.



VGPolyglot said:

For something that the media is supposedly trying to hide, it sure is getting a lot of attention in the media.

*snap*



I think the lesson here is, if you are going to get into some satire regarding how the media treat you, don't jump to Nazi imagery and symbolism as your first point of counter-attack. Build up to it. Or maybe just find a way that is less likely to get taken out of context.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

GribbleGrunger said:
VGPolyglot said:

Source? I haven't heard this anywhere. And yes, you are being distracted from the main problem, viewing the immigrants as the problem instead of the politicians.

Ignore the presenter and watch the images. This is what Europe is up against but the media don't want to show it because they think naively things will get better if we don't know about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSxOepqbeM
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/16/video-french-police-flee-armed-mob-paris-riots-spread-city-centre/

Just ignore it if it doesn't affect you.

"There has been heightened tension on the council estates of Paris since the 2nd of February, when a 22-year-old youth worker named Theo was allegedly beaten up and raped with a truncheon by police.

Seems like a pretty reasonable reason for the people to riot IMO, if true.

But by all means, carry on blaming the immigrants.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

He can justify it anyway he wants, but when you make numerous anti-semitic "jokes" its not surprising that a parent company such as Disney will see you as too high of a risk to continue funding. Notice how other "edgy" comedians don’t have shows on Disney properties. Like i said before, he needs to know who his main audience is



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

You're only proving the incidence of favorability towards a demographic under the laws, not the intent of favorability towards a demographic. A difference in per capita does not mean the laws were made to favor one race over another. You already made this ad hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy earlier. You need to reevaluate your reasoning because repetition won't help you.

Wait, so laws allowing slavery, limiting immigration of non-whites and not allowing natives to vote don't prove that?

I apologize. I should've specified that I was referring to the property laws. Typing on mobile on VGC was cumbersome, but I'm on my computer now. Obviously, the ones allowing slavery were obviously discrimminatory, but they don't exist anymore. What matters is do the laws favor one race over another? The answer to that question is no. A lot of differences in per capita are incidental rather than causal. Things like stop and frisk are influenced by statistics because they show a trend that gives law enforcement a good idea of the big picture. This approach is also applied on other things such as car insurance, where men are charged more for their premiums because of their higher average aggressiveness.

And before you use the poor wealth argument again, you should contemplate the reasons behind that phenomenon. Perhaps, the overrepresentation of fatherlessness in black families contributes to that. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Children’s Living Arrangements and Characteristics: March 2011, Table C8. Washington D.C.: 2011., children in fatherless homes are four times more likely to be poor. They also are more likely to abuse drugs. Drug abuse wastes money, puts people in poor health, and will get them in frequent trouble with law enforcement. It's almost as if the economic problems among the black community is socially related rather than legally related...

binary solo said:

"There has been heightened tension on the council estates of Paris since the 2nd of February, when a 22-year-old youth worker named Theo was allegedly beaten up and raped with a truncheon by police.

Seems like a pretty reasonable reason for the people to riot IMO, if true.

But by all means, carry on blaming the immigrants.


Allegedly is the most important word of the underlined phrase. Rioting over something alleged is irresponsible as you engage in extreme action before even analyzing all the details. Also, let's say the event actually happened beyond reasonable doubt. Which option is better? Rioting or pursue legal action on the officers involved? Rioting is violent and have the possibility to be indiscrimminate, which can lead to people who aren't involved getting hurt. Pursuing legal action on the officers involved is specific and less violent. It puts the spotlight on the wrongdoers without needlessly harming others.



binary solo said:

"There has been heightened tension on the council estates of Paris since the 2nd of February, when a 22-year-old youth worker named Theo was allegedly beaten up and raped with a truncheon by police.

Seems like a pretty reasonable reason for the people to riot IMO, if true.

But by all means, carry on blaming the immigrants.

I suppose the only way you're going to actually acknowledge the problem is if it directly affects you. When you go to your favourite cafe and your girlfriend isn't allowed in because the area is being run my immigrants, then you'll see it. When you get put out of the home you've lived in for 16 years by the government because they want to house immigrants there, then you'll see it. When you get stopped in the streets because it's a Sharia law enforced area and your girlfriend is wearing 'inapropriate dress' or you're carrying a can of beer, then you'll see it. When the 'rape game' comes to an area near you, then you'll see it. When the women in your area start dying their hair black because they fear being attacked if they're blonde, then you'll see it. When you're banging on a door because there are immigrants who have your 13 year old daughter upstairs and are having sex with here, and YOU get arrested, then you'll see it.

Sounds like I've just made that up, doesn't it ...

Here's a nice fluffy conservative vid for the more faint of heart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF-SjHuOTOM

And here's another showing how the press are hiding it from you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm5SYxRXHsI



Late to the party, but does anybody know what was the actual joke? I'm now reading tons of things through Internet, and I'm getting tons of different responses.



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Volterra_90 said:

Late to the party, but does anybody know what was the actual joke? I'm now reading tons of things through Internet, and I'm getting tons of different responses.

I'll explain step-by-step

 

1. There is a website that has people say anything you want for $5. They typically have a special 'theme' to them as well- one person may dress up as santa, jesus, etc.

2. Pewdiepie said screw it and thought he'd two dudes to say "Death to all Jews", with a message saying "Subscribe to Keemstar" appearing on the video.

3. The two dudes actually did it, and he uploaded it.

4. Everyone started calling him a nazi and antisemitic. Neonazis ended up supporting him, so that didn't help.

5. Media chose to pounce on the topic, cause logic.

6. Disney/Youtube cancel shows- everyone is celebrating.

7. Pewdiepie apologizes, makes it clear he doesn't support antisemitism or neonazis. Unfortunately, it seems like you can only completely love or hate a person. I don't support what he did, but calling him antisemitic/nazi is pretty low...



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