| tak13 said: This was my reply about the topic in the amazon thread. Switch is a hybrid, so both home and handheld console. Someone could call it portable home console. What you say, is an oversimplification. The handheld part has detachable controllers, when you disconnect them, what do you have? Not a handheld console, but a screen/or tablet you could say, this attaches to a dock, screen turns off when its placed inside the dock, content is streamed on tv via an hdmi and we get a home console, of which the brain is the screen/tablet. The detachable controllers of the screen/tablet connect to a grip to make the controller of the home console. You are talking as if switch is like a 3DS, but you can play it on tv with a cable and a dock. I guess that you mean that is primarly a handheld console, I can't believe that you really consider it a handheld console only that connects to tv with a dock just because its power feels low as a home console todays. Anyway, Nintendo calls it a home console first and foremost, so what I'm telling or you're telling doesn't matter! With the first line of my OP, I aknowledged that it can do both. But yes, I am referring to what the primary design direction is all about. Nintendo calls it a homes console, I call it a portable, everyone else calls it both. Whereas, my stance is that because somthing can do different things doesn't make it all those things. At the heart of it all that thing is for the most part designed as one thing with the added flexibility of doing other things.
I was curious to see your reply to rol about wii because Ι dechipered the same thing with him from you arguments... Surely, you were not meaning that wii isn't a home console but your arguments lead to that conclusion, wii was exactly the opposite of what you described ( things get reinvented sometimes ). You could just skipped the part about philosophy and perfomance. It's kinda stereotypical.' I have replied him, and I didnt reply him intially cause I felt it was obvious that he wasn't actually reading the OP. He jut glanced through and picked things he was gonna attack without really checking for context. In my OP i gave two descriptions of what a home console or portable console is each. No one is better than the other and none was designed to stand alone. Now if you look at it that way, then you would see that the Wii firmly falls in line with teh first description of a home console. But even if we want to look at the second description, while the wii wasnt as powerful as the PS3/360.... I doubt there was any handheld as powerful as the wii. Lastly, in the very same post he ignored i went onto point out why I fet power or the kinda games we see aren't a good way to qualify a device and that we should instead base it on tech... which brings me back to design philosophy. And went onto to site that once upon a time the PS1 was a home console too. The PSvita being able to play PS1 games doesn't suddenly make that a home console. You did right to start that discussion and I like that you don't downplay or taunt implicitly or explicitly Nintendo, you simply express your opinion with arguments, grounded or groundless, at least you have arguments, without dogmatism, unlike a specific other person, not in that thread. Well thanks, I really don't get why some here though were so riled up by it. I tried to speak clearly and made it clear I was open to any opinion presented. Cause i was really just curious to read how people would describe the switch and why. But atlas.... I apparently have an agenda and all i have said makes no sense at all. I think you would consider it a home console if it was like wii u? Main console and tablet controller, with the difference of the tablet controller having a cartidge slot as the main console? However, that would be handheld console ( which can be used as a controller ) and home console bundled together, not a hybrid. The one thing that makes the wiiU a home console in my book is as you descibed it. The "tablet contoller" would need to be where the games are put into. Would also need to be where the hardware to run said game is. As it stands, the wiiU controller without the wiiU console is just a controller. Kinda like how you need a PS4 to do remote play with the Vita. But now if the wiiU was made without a set top box and just a cradle for the controller instead that allows you connect it to the tv, and had a slot to put in your games on the controller.... does that make it a switch? Or lets say the 3DS (as was with the case with the PSgo) had a dock that allowed you charge it and connect it to your tv at the same time, does that mean the 3ds has become a home console? Hybrid? Is anything that can do multiple things all of those things even if its inherently designed to excel at one? |
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