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etking said:
monocle_layton said:

So even though Trump is planning on doing EXACTLY the same thing as Obama (perhaps worse), it's okay because "he's honest".

 

Absolutely no logic in that statement.

The EU is already dead and filled with radical islamistic terrorists. There is nothing left that Trump could destroy. Obama already did the job.

By getting along with Russia and dropping the sanctions, Trump will help the western economy to get over the crisis. Also the increased military spending to fight against terrorism will help the European economy and create many new jobs.

People keep saying that yet when I go out day after day in my dead European city, things seem pretty fine. Must be something with my cancer ridden eyes.



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monocle_layton said:
Watch Trump supporters call this liberal propaganda.

I'll never trust a US president until they stand up and eradicate the intervention of the middle east. Bush, obama, and now trump. Not surprised to see him kissing up to oil companies.


I'm also predicting a new terrorist group to form after Trump's future attacks on middle eastern countries.

You are 18. You can't have a credible opinion on either Busy or Obama.



UnderstatedCornHole said:
monocle_layton said:
Watch Trump supporters call this liberal propaganda.

I'll never trust a US president until they stand up and eradicate the intervention of the middle east. Bush, obama, and now trump. Not surprised to see him kissing up to oil companies.


I'm also predicting a new terrorist group to form after Trump's future attacks on middle eastern countries.

You are 18. You can't have a credible opinion on either Busy or Obama.

Out of curiosity, what do you make of historians?



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vivster said:
etking said:

The EU is already dead and filled with radical islamistic terrorists. There is nothing left that Trump could destroy. Obama already did the job.

By getting along with Russia and dropping the sanctions, Trump will help the western economy to get over the crisis. Also the increased military spending to fight against terrorism will help the European economy and create many new jobs.

People keep saying that yet when I go out day after day in my dead European city, things seem pretty fine. Must be something with my cancer ridden eyes.

I agree with Vivster. Nothing Etking said makes any sort of sense.



UnderstatedCornHole said:
monocle_layton said:
Watch Trump supporters call this liberal propaganda.

I'll never trust a US president until they stand up and eradicate the intervention of the middle east. Bush, obama, and now trump. Not surprised to see him kissing up to oil companies.


I'm also predicting a new terrorist group to form after Trump's future attacks on middle eastern countries.

You are 18. You can't have a credible opinion on either Busy or Obama.

I certainly can have an opinion on them. My age does not make my opinion inferior or superior.

 

The facts are present. All the US presidents didn't do much to fix the middle east.  



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Lafiel said:

"we'll invade your country and make you pay for it"
yea, I think they'll love that

So basically the way it's always been? Up until now, when the PC police arrived. I mean, why do you think Germany is such an economic power after the Second World War? You know, the one which had them conquer and rob whole of Europe? Also, we still can't get the asshole Swedes to give back our works of art they robbed during their invasion. That's how it goes, even in the most leftist countries out there. And mind you, some fossil is nothing when compared to stealing works of art that form the culture of a nation. US coming in and taking some oil is nothing compared to ISIS blowing up priceless ancient ruins in Palmyra.

In fact, I think you were suckers for not funding your operation from "liberated and secured" oil rigs.



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Scisca said:
Lafiel said:

"we'll invade your country and make you pay for it"
yea, I think they'll love that

So basically the way it's always been? Up until now, when the PC police arrived. I mean, why do you think Germany is such an economic power after the Second World War? You know, the one which had them conquer and rob whole of Europe? Also, we still can't get the asshole Swedes to give back our works of art they robbed during their invasion. That's how it goes, even in the most leftist countries out there. And mind you, some fossil is nothing when compared to stealing works of art that form the culture of a nation. US coming in and taking some oil is nothing compared to ISIS blowing up priceless ancient ruins in Palmyra.

In fact, I think you were suckers for not funding your operation from "liberated and secured" oil rigs.

Germany wasn't an economic powerhouse in the late fourties... And East-Germany is still economicallly underdeveloped compared to West-Germany. Many German treasures have been stolen by the Russians as well. 

West-Germany became an economic powerhouse because of foreign investment, not because of what happened during WW II.



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Alkibiádēs said:
Scisca said:

So basically the way it's always been? Up until now, when the PC police arrived. I mean, why do you think Germany is such an economic power after the Second World War? You know, the one which had them conquer and rob whole of Europe? Also, we still can't get the asshole Swedes to give back our works of art they robbed during their invasion. That's how it goes, even in the most leftist countries out there. And mind you, some fossil is nothing when compared to stealing works of art that form the culture of a nation. US coming in and taking some oil is nothing compared to ISIS blowing up priceless ancient ruins in Palmyra.

In fact, I think you were suckers for not funding your operation from "liberated and secured" oil rigs.

Germany wasn't an economic powerhouse in the late fourties... And East-Germany is still economicallly underdeveloped compared to West-Germany. Many German treasures have been stolen by the Russians as well. 

West-Germany became an economic powerhouse because of foreign investment, not because of what happened during WW II.

Not true. The thing is that all the industry, all the factories they constructed during the war weren't destroyed. All that layed dormant for some time in the fourties, but when the air cleared, they were ready to be used again and start their current economy. All companies that played major role in the war are huge nowadays and the war was their jumpstart. Germany was robbing the coutries they conquered and from an economical standpoint, they were ahead in comparison to others, despite losing on the military front. East Germany is poorer because they had communism, that system takes no prisoners.



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RolStoppable said:
Trump is so cool.

He is. The ugliness of the American foreign policies is much more tolerable to look at without the make up. He's also making it a lot easier to spot the idiots who would've usually defended those foreign policies with the good ol' "police of the world" banner.

Torillian said:
UnderstatedCornHole said:

You are 18. You can't have a credible opinion on either Busy or Obama.

Out of curiosity, what do you make of historians?

Is there a reason why the fonts in this thread appear bolded and slanted? It's very hard to look at. 



numberwang said:

If you care about the middle east blame Obama/Clinton/Bush who started one war after another - from Iraq to Syria.

The oil is currently funding ISIS, so keep it away from them is a good idea.

US taxpayers spent $60 billion in reconstruction grants to Iraq - the question if Iraq should pay back some of it is a valid one, even if there is no clear answer considering the legitimacy of the Iraq War.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/much-of-60b-from-us-to-rebuild-iraq-wasted-special-auditors-final-report-to-congress-shows/

To date, the U.S. has spent more than $60 billion in reconstruction grants to help Iraq get back on its feet after the country was broken by more than two decades of war, sanctions and dictatorship. That works out to about $15 million a day.

"the question if Iraq should pay back some of it is a valid one, even if there is no clear answer considering the legitimacy of the Iraq War."

I can't honestly read that and take your seriously. First of all, it's not a question to Trump anymore. Second of all, you left no room for debate with that kind of statement. The war was started by the US, it was based on fabricated LIES, it was overwhelmingly opposed by the international communities, it broke the international law, hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, millions fled their homes, more importantly, the war started a devestating chain reaction that Iraqis are suffering because of it until this day. But non of that matters in this discussion because?? because it could be as a valid objection to the point you are making. 

Thank you Trump for exposing the idiocy everywhere.