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VGPolyglot said:
Barkley said:
A true tag team, Kirby and Rol fight the mod team, grab your tickets now!

Everyone else who posted after it happened seem to agree with the ban, if bringing up a comment like that made years ago isn't irrelevant and bait I don't know what is. Let's be honest the motivation behind it was also probably bitterness and not being chosen as a moderator after years of trying.

I don't really think that Rol is a bad person, in fact through my interactions with him he can actually be a very caring and helpful person. However, he does take this site very seriously, so if he feels he's been wronged he does tend to take it very far (and I can empathize with that as I can be the same at times). I admit that I wasn't expecting him to bring up an event from that long ago, though.

Of course he's not a bad person, or a bad user of the site, he just straddles the line sometimes of what is acceptable, and sometimes he will cross it.



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Barkley said:
A true tag team, Kirby and Rol fight the mod team, grab your tickets now!

Everyone else who posted after it happened seem to agree with the ban, if bringing up a comment like that made years ago isn't irrelevant and bait I don't know what is. Let's be honest the motivation behind it was also probably bitterness and not being chosen as a moderator after years of trying.

I fail to comprehend your post.

That opener? Trying to remove credibility?

Second line the majority seems to agree argument? But it aint about the majority but how the rules are applied so a wrong statement again. Line about old post being irrelavant, doesnt even matter since thats not related to the ban.

Last line trying to discredit again.

 

Which is leaving me to wonder why create a wrong statement and whats your gain in this?



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kirby007 said:
Aeolus451 said:

I'm not a mod nor do track that stuff like some others.

Listen its something like this ..s in a xbox thread someone walks in and posts but its shit bc of this this and this. Next thread same thing happens. Another thread? Same thing? New thread guess what? Same fucking thing. 

Check a sony thread suddenly its not doom and glory from that guy. Hmmmmm hmmmm

 

We have a couple of those and not even nessesary regarding xbox or nintendo or microsoft but also those that criticise vgc numbers no matter what without looking at the general accuracy it provides. 

To be fair, I don't peruse most of the big 3's threads unless it's related to a game or topic I'm interested in so I don't see much of that stuff but sometimes it just seems you guys take this shit too personally. 



My phone is screwing up quoting and making text massive suddenly...

Anyway, no the reason given for the ban wasn't about baiting or irrelevance, but it should have been. It was an negative, controversial and frankly embarrassing comment one of the new mods had made in the past, how could it have been brought up out of the blue because of anything other than malicious intent?

Also the opening line is simply pointing out that you and Rol have acted like two peas in a pod recently and joking with it a little, don't take it too seriously. I don't see how that comment could even discredit anything.



RolStoppable said:
Barkley said:
My phone is screwing up quoting and making text massive suddenly...

Anyway, no the reason given for the ban wasn't about baiting or irrelevance, but it should have been. It was an negative, controversial and frankly embarrassing comment one of the new mods had made in the past, how could it have been brought up out of the blue because of anything other than malicious intent?

Also the opening line is simply pointing out that you and Rol have acted like two peas in a pod recently and joking with it a little, don't take it too seriously. I don't see how that comment could even discredit anything.

For the same reason I bring up Carl's dark past every now and then.

Which is? xD



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Its called banter



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I understand that having experience in both sides is beneficial, I still don't understand the reason behind your post and how it was supposed to be beneficial, it just looks like bringing up a skeleton out of the closet with zero prompting to do so.

But when there's people breathing down their necks, waiting for them to slip up and make a mistake to kick up a fuss about it, it's no surprise the moderators aren't more active in this thread.



Ka-pi96 said:
RolStoppable said:

You may have noticed that it's not the norm to see moderators in this thread, because most of them loathe the accountability it brings with it.

heh, it does sometimes seem like it's the CGI thread, with occasional cameos from our resident rummy

Besides the rest of the team is only found on discord 



 "I think people should define the word crap" - Kirby007

Join the Prediction League http://www.vgchartz.com/predictions

Instead of seeking to convince others, we can be open to changing our own minds, and seek out information that contradicts our own steadfast point of view. Maybe it’ll turn out that those who disagree with you actually have a solid grasp of the facts. There’s a slight possibility that, after all, you’re the one who’s wrong.

RolStoppable said:

You may have noticed that it's not the norm to see moderators in this thread, because most of them loathe the accountability it brings with it.

There is a good reason for it... That I will not get into.
However, just because some mods aren't commenting doesn't mean they aren't paying attention.


RolStoppable said:

 You (and others) probably have the idea that Angelus is my latest pick of an enemy, but in reality he is the one surprisingly good choice among the new members of the mod team.

I fully support Angelus in everything he has done up to this point. He has done a terrific job thus far.

RolStoppable said:


Doesn't mean that the other two are bad, that's why I said "at least one" in the announcement thread for the new mods; I am undecided on the-pi-guy and Pemalite, that's all it means.

I tend to be on the opposite timezone to the other mods and that is usually when the forum is extremely quiet, so I haven't really had much "work" to do.
Whether you are decided on me as an individual? I couldn't care less, that isn't my problem. - But I will treat you the same as every other individual, regardless of position I hold on this site.



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RolStoppable said:

I have to say a few things about my recent ban.

"Flaming (I got your reference. Still, you can't accuse the mod team of letting hate speech fly. That's not happening.)"

The reason for my ban was made up. I did not accuse the mod team of letting hate speech fly. The actual implication of my post was that Angelus has a good grasp of what is offensive and what is not, and that is good because it is something that this mod team needs. It wasn't too long ago that the mod team decided that calling a racist a racist, or a rapist a rapist, is worthy of a moderation. While Angelus issued the ban, he quickly agreed that my post wasn't hate speech when I PMed him on the following day. Logically, if my comment wasn't hate speech, there cannot be an implication that the mod team will let hate speech fly, so the reason I got banned for has no basis anymore. Mistakes happen when decisions are made quickly and I've been the victim of wrongful moderations before, so I can easily look past another wrongful moderation.

I'm going to just address this portion of your post, because most of the rest of it isn't something I've had any hand in.

Now, just to remind everyone, this is the post you got banned for: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8816040

Specifically, this part:
"On the plus side, now it might be allowed to express the opinion that the thought of having sex with a transsexual person is disgusting."

It's your contention that the mod team rushed to ban you on false grounds. You believe that because your post doesn't contain hate speech, it can't possibly have implied the mod team would be lax on hate speech moving forward. That makes no logical sense to me whatsoever. A statement can imply all manner of things that it doesn't implicitly contain. In fact, you yourself are now making that very argument by implying that what you actually meant with that statement was more along the lines of "good that we now have this moderator who has a reasonable grasp of where the line is." An interpretation which, frankly, requires a much further leap, than the rather straightforward one myself, and the rest of the mod team had of it. If that's truly what you meant to say there, it was completely lost on me, and I suspect most other users who read it. After all, if it were so clear, we wouldn't have received any reports of the post, right?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you did in fact mean what you say you meant, but even so, given the wording of what you actually typed, I stand by the moderation completely.

Also, whatever bias you believe the mod team has towards you (whether that's true or not), I don't fall in that camp. I actually quite like most of your posts. You're clever. Not always to your benefit, but clever nevertheless.

In closing, I'll say briefly that those contestgamer posts you brought up….well, they're ugly. I believe they should have been moderated. I believe in the future, posts like that absolutely would be moderated. They don't change however, that your ban was - in my opinion - entirely justified.