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Nintendo Switch to have VR: the gamepad is also a VR screen.

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NATO on 17 December 2016
teigaga said:
NATO said:

Silly me, I forgot you have the detailed system specifications to hand to make such statements on.

Yes, that is sarcasm.

You seem to intentionally ignore my point. From what I gather, any decent hardware this side of the decade can out 1080p, 4x AAA etc. Its a case of balancing this against visual detail like poly count, texture size, txture fx like bump maps,  lighting & shadows, particle fx etc..

2 pages prior I included native 60fps Wii games (which is like 1/100th the Tegra X1 specs) outputting at 1080p (like 8x the games native Wii resolution). I think people grossly overestimate the minimimum graphical requirements for an enjoyable VR experience. No doubt if Nintendo did VR the visuals would be better than those Wii games, but the idea that you need a monster of a machine to deliver VR is based on an expectation of games looking (or trying to look) like modern AAA affair  as opposed to embracing the technical limitations and creating the graphics around what can be achieved when hitting the required performance benchmarks like high res/fps/aliasing.

You need 80-120hz for a quality vr experience otherwise the head tracking and delay is jarring , ideally locked at 120hz, running psvr on a PS4 the a ps4pro the immediate difference you notice is the more fluid and natural functionality of the headset, way more comfortable and less motion sickness inducing.

 

1080p at 60hz won't cut it.

 

Only reason psvr on a standard PS4 can get away with it is because the enternal box does frame blending to give the effect of 120hz when the console can't hit that.

 

In addition the display and the optics are sealed, no dust gets in and no crap ends up on your screen or the inside of the optics, having to slot in an external display means the unit isn't sealed, so debris and humidity can enter the unit, and anyone with an early dk1 or dk2 rift will tell you, dust and debris inside the unit is both extremely anouying and jarring, too.

 

I have: psvr, rift, vive, rift dk2 and rift dk1, in my opinion the standard PS4 is on the raggedy edge of delivering an enjoyable vr experience, mainly because of the external boxes frame rate trickery, and we can both agree, quite easily, that the switch isn't going to be as fast as a PS4.

 

And no, if the display on the switch is 60hz, they can't use frame blending to get around it because the display itself will only ever display 60hz, and if they use a 120hz display then you can say goodbye to a sub $300 pricetag.

 

If they go with 60hz the games are going to be both meh and the actual experience of playing them both mediocre and physically painfully for longer periods of time.



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COKTOE on 17 December 2016

I see....The face of Reggie in the video is quite on the nose. Let's see how this plays out.



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Zoombael on 17 December 2016



Hunting Season is done...

Goodnightmoon on 17 December 2016

Nop, this is not happening. Is big, is 720p and is clear that Nintendo is not gonna play the VR card this gen.



GProgrammer on 17 December 2016
teigaga said:

If Nintendo made a Metroid VR experience , Made a Pokemon Go/Snap type VR game,  VR Mario Kart experience, VR Splatoon experience. And they do this using the components which already come with the Switch (joycons with motion control & IR, Switch Screen+ Gyro etc) and a $50 headset, the number of active VR users on Switch would outnumber those on other platforms within a matter of weeks.

True thats why the Wii U with splatoon, mario kart etc vastly outsells the Xbox one and PS4



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Colocho on 17 December 2016
Ljink96 said:
I don't think it'll be a huge thing Nintendo focuses on or even makes available on Switch. PSVR sales have plummeted and that was VR's last hope for the current generation. VR isn't ready for gaming yet.

I think this would b a game changer for Nintendo if true...  also, PSVR sales have pummeted???  Really?? Cuz I've been trying to get one for the past 2 weeks and I cant find one ANYWHERE around my area.  All sold out!!  : ( 



Frogger on 17 December 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Nop, this is not happening. Is big, is 720p and is clear that Nintendo is not gonna play the VR card this gen.

Yeah, like mobile.



Frogger on 17 December 2016
Ljink96 said:
I don't think it'll be a huge thing Nintendo focuses on or even makes available on Switch. PSVR sales have plummeted and that was VR's last hope for the current generation. VR isn't ready for gaming yet.

If it's not a huge thing Nintendo focuses on, it will not be a product that exists lol Nintendo is not a company that makes hardware and then doesn't push it like it's gods gift to earth. That's kind of their thing. If Switch VR ever exists, expect them to treat it like every other accessory or hardware gimmick they've ever pushed.



Ljink96 on 17 December 2016
Colocho said:
Ljink96 said:
I don't think it'll be a huge thing Nintendo focuses on or even makes available on Switch. PSVR sales have plummeted and that was VR's last hope for the current generation. VR isn't ready for gaming yet.

I think this would b a game changer for Nintendo if true...  also, PSVR sales have pummeted???  Really?? Cuz I've been trying to get one for the past 2 weeks and I cant find one ANYWHERE around my area.  All sold out!!  : ( 

Yes, PSVR sales fell off hard. It's still very new.  They projected millions but only saw a turnout in the hundred thousands. So I guess sales haven't plummeted, they just overprojected. 

https://www.vg247.com/2016/11/30/vr-was-the-biggest-loser-in-sales-this-year-psvr-sales-forecast-greatly-lowered-superdata/

spemanig said:
Ljink96 said:
I don't think it'll be a huge thing Nintendo focuses on or even makes available on Switch. PSVR sales have plummeted and that was VR's last hope for the current generation. VR isn't ready for gaming yet.

If it's not a huge thing Nintendo focuses on, it will not be a product that exists lol Nintendo is not a company that makes hardware and then doesn't push it like it's gods gift to earth. That's kind of their thing. If Switch VR ever exists, expect them to treat it like every other accessory or hardware gimmick they've ever pushed.

True, but they've got such a terrible taste in their mouth with Virtual Boy and VR really doesn't suit their content. It'll be years before decent Nintendo Switch VR games come out. The Wiimote, 3D, were all things that were the focus of the respective systems. But VR in addition to a hybrid, and joycons, and switching, I think it's a bit much right out the gate. 



Frogger on 17 December 2016

Ljink96 said:

spemanig said:

If it's not a huge thing Nintendo focuses on, it will not be a product that exists lol Nintendo is not a company that makes hardware and then doesn't push it like it's gods gift to earth. That's kind of their thing. If Switch VR ever exists, expect them to treat it like every other accessory or hardware gimmick they've ever pushed.

True, but they've got such a terrible taste in their mouth with Virtual Boy and VR really doesn't suit their content. It'll be years before decent Nintendo Switch VR games come out. The Wiimote, 3D, were all things that were the focus of the respective systems. But VR in addition to a hybrid, and joycons, and switching, I think it's a bit much right out the gate.

 

People are blowing the VB thing way out of perportion. That was years ago. Nintendo is clearly over it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually called the HMD the Virtual Boy again.

I really don't agree at all that it doesn't suit their content. Metroid Prime would do well in VR. F-Zero would do well in VR. The entire "Wii Sports" series. Pilotwings, Excitebike, Waverace, Punch-Out, 1080p Snowboarding, Star Fox, Mario Kart, oh me, oh my. Literally anything that can be translated to VR if it can be reinterpreted in the first person.

And that's just classics. If Nintendo's doing VR, they're obviously going to bundle the HMD with a Wii Sports/Wii Fit/Nintendogs-type new IP who's job is to prove the new technology and sell it in droves.

If Nintendo wants to do Switch VR, they're going to tack it onto literally every game they can think of like they did with the Wii. I don't know when Switch VR is going to happen, but I wouldn't be even the least bit suprised if we see it as easly as in the January presentation, with it launching as early as March 2018.