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November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

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Here are some important quotes from the article
“The year-on-year software revenue decline was driven by the strong comparison to last November’s top 3 titles,” NPD analyst Sam Naji explained in a statement. “Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Fallout 4, and Star Wars: Battlefront, which were all full-priced console new releases. This month’s top three games were Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Battlefield 1, and Pokémon: Sun. Battlefield 1 launched in October, and Pokémon: Sun launched at a lower [price] than last November’s console games. As all titles outside of the top three grew a combined 12 percent vs. year ago, it is the top three title grouping that drove the year-on-year decline.”

“Total hardware spending in November declined 35 percent compared to year ago as growth in portable hardware sales was offset by declines in console hardware spending, particularly on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One,” said Naji.

"That’s probably going to continue as Microsoft and Sony keep discounting their consoles through the holidays to compete with each another."

Pokémon Sun and Pokémon: Moon had the strongest launch in the history of the franchise, selling 8 percent more units than the previous best-selling combo of Pokémon: White and Pokémon: Black despite having 19 fewer days in market during the month,” said Naji.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/15/november-2016-npd-pokemon-sun-and-moon-have-biggest-debut-in-franchise-history/



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SWORDF1SH said:
So the hardware revenue decline doesn't match the 'rumoured' numbers. I think that confirms they are fake

You did the math? I'd be interested to see the numbers



VGPolyglot said:
jason1637 said:
Hardware is down 35% Software 18%. PC software 28% down.

They didn't say that hardware was down 35%, they said that spending was down 35%, which if the average cost of a console is cheaper than last year will mean that the drop is lower than that.

Ok my apologies. 



jason1637 said:
Here are some important quotes from the article
“The year-on-year software revenue decline was driven by the strong comparison to last November’s top 3 titles,” NPD analyst Sam Naji explained in a statement. “Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Fallout 4, and Star Wars: Battlefront, which were all full-priced console new releases. This month’s top three games were Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Battlefield 1, and Pokémon: Sun. Battlefield 1 launched in October, and Pokémon: Sun launched at a lower [price] than last November’s console games. As all titles outside of the top three grew a combined 12 percent vs. year ago, it is the top three title grouping that drove the year-on-year decline.”

“Total hardware spending in November declined 35 percent compared to year ago as growth in portable hardware sales was offset by declines in console hardware spending, particularly on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One,” said Naji.

"That’s probably going to continue as Microsoft and Sony keep discounting their consoles through the holidays to compete with each another."

Pokémon Sun and Pokémon: Moon had the strongest launch in the history of the franchise, selling 8 percent more units than the previous best-selling combo of Pokémon: White and Pokémon: Black despite having 19 fewer days in market during the month,” said Naji.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/15/november-2016-npd-pokemon-sun-and-moon-have-biggest-debut-in-franchise-history/

What was bw numbers lol



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Pokemon bw sold 2.757mil in march 2011.

Wonder of sun/moon can get over 4.5mil sold this year?



tbone51 said:
jason1637 said:
Here are some important quotes from the article
“The year-on-year software revenue decline was driven by the strong comparison to last November’s top 3 titles,” NPD analyst Sam Naji explained in a statement. “Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Fallout 4, and Star Wars: Battlefront, which were all full-priced console new releases. This month’s top three games were Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Battlefield 1, and Pokémon: Sun. Battlefield 1 launched in October, and Pokémon: Sun launched at a lower [price] than last November’s console games. As all titles outside of the top three grew a combined 12 percent vs. year ago, it is the top three title grouping that drove the year-on-year decline.”

“Total hardware spending in November declined 35 percent compared to year ago as growth in portable hardware sales was offset by declines in console hardware spending, particularly on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One,” said Naji.

"That’s probably going to continue as Microsoft and Sony keep discounting their consoles through the holidays to compete with each another."

Pokémon Sun and Pokémon: Moon had the strongest launch in the history of the franchise, selling 8 percent more units than the previous best-selling combo of Pokémon: White and Pokémon: Black despite having 19 fewer days in market during the month,” said Naji.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/15/november-2016-npd-pokemon-sun-and-moon-have-biggest-debut-in-franchise-history/

What was bw numbers lol

2.4 million. http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_March_2011



SWORDF1SH said:
So the hardware revenue decline doesn't match the 'rumoured' numbers. I think that confirms they are fake

Ps4 Pro was 400$$.



VGPolyglot said:
jason1637 said:
Hardware is down 35% Software 18%. PC software 28% down.

They didn't say that hardware was down 35%, they said that spending was down 35%, which if the average cost of a console is cheaper than last year will mean that the drop is lower than that.

Or higher given the PS4 Pro launch. I guess we'll have to wait.



poklane said:
SWORDF1SH said:
So the hardware revenue decline doesn't match the 'rumoured' numbers. I think that confirms they are fake

You did the math? I'd be interested to see the numbers

If consoles sold for the same price as last year, a 35% drop is would equal about 2.3M consoles. But we know the consoles sold for less so the 35% drop in revenue and consoles selling for cheaper would mean that more than 2.3M consoles were sold.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense, I'm crap at explaining.

Edit - apparently it includes handhelds and they are up  YoY so I'm still non the wiser