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Dulfite said:

Your comparing that to these videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLLssbFwVjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s

Well, no, I was mocking you for trying to diagnose illness from obviously exaggerated facial expressions and reactions.  I thought that was clear?  My bad, I'll try to make it more obvious in the future.

Personally, I think it's kind of amusing that people are so easily manipulated by propaganda videos.  You can take anything, loop it, put it in slow motion, and make it look crazy.  I thought we'd learned that from gifs alone.



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pokoko said:
Dulfite said:

Your comparing that to these videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLLssbFwVjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s

Well, no, I was mocking you for trying to diagnose illness from obviously exaggerated facial expressions and reactions.  I thought that was clear?  My bad, I'll try to make it more obvious in the future.

Personally, I think it's kind of amusing that people are so easily manipulated by propaganda videos.  You can take anything, loop it, put it in slow motion, and make it look crazy.  I thought we'd learned that 

The Hillay seizures isn't looped or manipulated, because we can see the reaction of the reporters and people around her having a massive reaction to her seizures.... it's not hard to see and red facial expressions when the reason is straight in front of them
Also her daugther already said she suffered from dillerium, have a good day.



 

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Baryonyx said:

You Americans keep making a fool out of yourself, this year election have revealed such stupidity it will never be forgotten.

There is plenty of videos to expose your all of the lies you tell yourself in all of these comment's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9GptmyPn5A
Collapsing in NY at 9/11 memorial. She staged it here in the video though, don't know the intention behind it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHOcmDVBP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_8AO5MDBEw
She is having a seizure.

People do understand that not everything written about everyone is true, right?: Said and written by #Normchaho.

Then explain the videos where we see this illness you denies...

 

The lies you all say to comfort yourself... FUCKING SAD



Hey, aren't you the guy who posted that video of the Army Corp of Engineers moving equipment and tried to convince people it was something sinister?  

Irony makes everything better.



Baryonyx said:
pokoko said:

Well, no, I was mocking you for trying to diagnose illness from obviously exaggerated facial expressions and reactions.  I thought that was clear?  My bad, I'll try to make it more obvious in the future.

Personally, I think it's kind of amusing that people are so easily manipulated by propaganda videos.  You can take anything, loop it, put it in slow motion, and make it look crazy.  I thought we'd learned that 

The Hillay seizures isn't looped or manipulated, because we can see the reaction of the reporters and people around her having a massive reaction to her seizures.... it's not hard to see and red facial expressions when the reason is straight in front of them
Also her daugther already said she suffered from dillerium, have a good day.

"As an Associated Press reporter who's spent more than a year covering her candidacy, I was there for her appearance. After she ordered herself a "cold chai," my colleagues and I shouted some questions, mostly about Clinton's recent meeting with Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds. Video of the moment shows me holding out my recorder in front of her, laughing and stepping back in surprise. After the exchange, she took a few more photos, exited the shop and greeted supporters waiting outside.

Two months later, that innocuous exchange has become the fodder for one of some Trump supporters' most popular conspiracy theories: her failing health. Where I saw evasiveness, they see seizures."  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-hillary-clinton-health-20160812-story.html

Seriously, when is the last time you saw someone instantly recover from a "seizure" and make a joke?  My cousin has them and they disorient and frighten her badly.  I mean, why don't you think about this stuff yourself?  You don't have to just follow along with what the media tells you.



pokoko said:
Baryonyx said:

The Hillay seizures isn't looped or manipulated, because we can see the reaction of the reporters and people around her having a massive reaction to her seizures.... it's not hard to see and red facial expressions when the reason is straight in front of them
Also her daugther already said she suffered from dillerium, have a good day.

"As an Associated Press reporter who's spent more than a year covering her candidacy, I was there for her appearance. After she ordered herself a "cold chai," my colleagues and I shouted some questions, mostly about Clinton's recent meeting with Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds. Video of the moment shows me holding out my recorder in front of her, laughing and stepping back in surprise. After the exchange, she took a few more photos, exited the shop and greeted supporters waiting outside.

Two months later, that innocuous exchange has become the fodder for one of some Trump supporters' most popular conspiracy theories: her failing health. Where I saw evasiveness, they see seizures."  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-hillary-clinton-health-20160812-story.html

Seriously, when is the last time you saw someone instantly recover from a "seizure" and make a joke?  My cousin has them and they disorient and frighten her badly.  I mean, why don't you think about this stuff yourself?  You don't have to just follow along with what the media tells you.

1) Not all of us think they are "seizures". They could be something else.

2) There are LOTS of differnet kinds of seizures people can have. There are people that have seizures every few seconds/minutes and they can simply look like your eyes are frozen for a split moment and then life goes on. There are plenty of people that have these regularly and are able to move on right after. There are also many who aren't able to, and I understand that.



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VGPolyglot said:
Her greed would have been much worse than her illness. Unfortunately Donald Trump is also greedy, so the working class will get fucked over no matter who's president.

So, true.



Dulfite said:
Hamister said:
1. That whole article is a combination of things taken out of context, unconfirmed rumours, lies and pure speculation. In other words worthless "facts" about Hillary's health.

2. Since there is nothing to suggest otherwise, statistically I'd say Hillary Clinton probably has better health than Trump (being a woman, being younger than Trump, and showing signs of a healthier living).

3. Hillary's so called "declining health" is from all we know nothing more than normal aging.

4. Even if she had an abnormal decling health, she would still have been one of the most competent american presidents in history. I can't think of any other candidate with such competense for being president (with the exception of some incubent predidents running for reelection).

1. Have you even seen the videos of Hillary doing incredibly weird things? She makes strange faces anytime there is a bright light, she has been caught falling down and need help to move along. There is a ton of evidence. This isn't nonsense.

2. Men die at a younger age than women because men, statistically, do a lot of the dangerous jobs, where as women, statistically, don't. You don't see nearly as many women soldiers, police officers, fire fighters, and construction workers as you do men. Seeing as Trump is none of those things, I would think that statistic isn't really valid. Also, they are both 69-70 years old, so they are literally like the same age.

3. Then why isn't Trump stumbling and needing help walking from his aids? Why isn't Trump getting into massive coughing fits while giving speech after speech? Why isn't Trump rolling his eyes in an uncontrollable and extremely eye catching/awkward movement and having his jaw drop whenever a surprise hits him? Seriously, watch the videos of Clinton doing weird things with her face and tell me that is normal aging.

4. How does one define competent? So engrained in the system that she is the epitome of corruption? Our founding fathers were experienced politicians, they were wealthy (business owners) with little to no political experience and were rebeliious against the established government. Hmm, who does that sound like?

1. I have seen the videos. They have the same credibility as videos of the Bermuda Triangle. They show no evidence of Clinton's health problems.

2. Research suggest that testosterone increases the probability of heart deseases, and that's the main reason why men die at a younger age than women.

3. Look yourself in the mirror. Have you ever had massive couching? Have you ever become dizzy? Have you ever stumbled when taking a walk? Have you fainted with no apparant reason? I'm certain most people have had such experiences. I have had them, and I'm 38 years and perfectly healthy. The things being reported about Hillary Clinton is nothing extraordinary - unless we want it to be extraordinary.

4. You can not compare America in 1783 with America in 2016. Back in 1783 it was a small isolated nation, with a far less complicated society than today. Today that small isolated nation has become an economic super power, a military super power, a society with over 300 million people of various religions and cultures. What was needed back in 1783 to lead the nation, is a small fraction of what is needed today.



Lots of "according" and "sources claim".
Is Hillary in tip top condition? No? Does it matter if a presidential candidate is in perfect health? I don't think so.
I mean, Ronald Reagan was elected and he clearly was mad in the head.



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