mZuzek said:
pray4mojo said:
Well, I don't know. When we're getting into stuff like this, it's hard to say what is great and not because so many people have different opinions. I will say this... OOT may have been the last Zelda where the overall opinions at the time were pretty much universially great. MM, like you said, was sort of mixed due to the time constraints. WW was hated becasue of it being too easy, sailing and art style. SS was hated becasue of motion controls.
So yeah, OOT was the last Zelda to get universial praise. Hopefully, the new game can get closer to that than the last few games but with the way gamers are and how people just like to bitch these days, I doubt it. Somebody, somewhere, is going to bitch about something.
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Someone is always going to bitch about something, that much is inevitable. People are already bitching about Breath of the Wild because "omg cartoony graphics again wtf nintendo" so we shouldn't get any hopes up.
That doesn't mean Ocarina of Time was the last great Zelda. The reason why people whine about each new entry is because they're all different, and people don't like change. People want every new Zelda to be exactly like Ocarina of Time but with shinier graphics - look at Twilight Princess for an example.
Twilight Princess is a great game. That, I won't deny. However, with how the game was conceived (mostly from fan feedback after The Wind Waker), it is very clear that it lacks identity. The game just follows in the footsteps of Ocarina of Time too much, and as a whole it just feels like fanservice with no much creative effort put into it. It lacks that uniqueness and magic that has been there in every other 3D Zelda, and it's what makes them good.
If you try to play these games objectively, it is actually pretty clear that Ocarina of Time is definitely, absolutely, 100% not the best 3D Zelda. It doesn't have the best dungeons (although it has some very good ones), it doesn't have the best bosses, it doesn't have the best soundtrack, it has by far the ugliest and most dated graphics, it has the worst story, and a serious pacing issue. The thing it does have going for it is, well... nostalgia. That's pretty much it. Anyone who ever tries to defend Ocarina of Time in this kind of debate always starts with "oh but the impact back in the day...", and that shows how dated the game is anyways.
I'm not saying Ocarina of Time isn't a great game, because that, it is - every 3D Zelda is, in fact - but I'm just trying to open up a more objective point of view. It is not the greatest game ever, nor is it the best Zelda game. Of course, everyone's entitled to their own taste, and it is justifiable to say it's your favorite game because of how mindblowing it was to you at the time... but that doesn't make it objectively better than the other entries.
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