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Is it?

Very, I won't buy it if it's weak 171 25.26%
 
Moderately so 281 41.51%
 
Not really 127 18.76%
 
No, power doesn't matter to me 63 9.31%
 
No, cos I'm not buying one 35 5.17%
 
Total:677

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Yes, I really don't care about the portable part.  I already carry a phone, and don't like to game on it that much.  I want to see the Zelda they demoed when the WiiU was coming out.

So seeing that I am only interested in it as a console, then yes, I do care about power.  I really think it should be closer to the Scorpio or at least the PS4 Pro.  The Many Nintendo systems have been very powerful.  I would rather drop the portable and add power, but I don't think I'm their market target.

 



 

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Zappykins said:

Yes, I really don't care about the portable part.  I already carry a phone, and don't like to game on it that much.  I want to see the Zelda they demoed when the WiiU was coming out.

So seeing that I am only interested in it as a console, then yes, I do care about power.  I really think it should be closer to the Scorpio or at least the PS4 Pro.  The Many Nintendo systems have been very powerful.  I would rather drop the portable and add power, but I don't think I'm their market target.

 

Probably not since this is a hand held console. If you think about it for what it actually is (as of right now, I could be wrong and this opinion change but based on what we know), then you will realize you are looking for a home console out of a hand held and you are not in their market. If you care about a powerful hand held, then you have one... but if you are looking for a powerful home console, this will not foot the bill. It is that simple. Being portable is the most important part, because it is a hand held console.



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curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

You dont need to look years at all and they are really not important, it's way more important direct gap between consoles in same gen, just compare directly Wii hardware with PS3/Xbox360 and Switch with XB1/PS4, and you will see that gap between Switch and XB1/PS4 will be much smaller than Wii was compared to PS3/Xbox360 (gap is around 20x).

Wii launched at the same time as PS3 and one year after 360 though, while Switch is launching more than three years after PS4/Xbone but will still be much weaker. Those extra years in Switch's favour have to be taken into account.

Switch will also be launching several months after PS4 Pro, and the same year as Scorpio, which will widen the gap against it even further.

If you want to go by available hardware rather than year though, Switch will actually be weaker for its time than Wii U; Wii U was at least on par with the consoles available at the time, PS3 and 360, while Switch will be weaker than PS4, Xbone, and PS4 Pro.

Regardless, PS3/Xbox360/Wii where consoles of same gene and they were on market basically in same time.

Even if compare Switch power to Scorpio that is rumored that will be 6TF console, again Wii was less powerful compared to PS3/Xbox 360, than Switch will be compared to Scorpio,but that really doesn't matter because XB1/PS4 consoles will be still on market and actual will be more popular versions of consoles.

True, just a problem with Wii U is that's was stronger/on pair with previous gen not with curent gen.

Point is that for first time from GC, gap power between Nintendo console and main competitors on market will be smallest.



Miyamotoo said:

Regardless, PS3/Xbox360/Wii where consoles of same gene and they were on market basically in same time.

Even if compare Switch power to Scorpio that is rumored that will be 6TF console, again Wii was less powerful compared to PS3/Xbox 360, than Switch will be compared to Scorpio,but that really doesn't matter because XB1/PS4 consoles will be still on market and actual will be more popular versions of consoles.

True, just a problem with Wii U is that's was stronger/on pair with previous gen not with curent gen.

Point is that for first time from GC, gap power between Nintendo console and main competitors on market will be smallest.

Well PS2 was still the most popular console on the market when Wii launched though, and Wii was stronger than PS2.

Likewise, Wii U had a year before PS4 and Xbone launched in which it was stronger than its competitors, PS3 and 360.

So if we go by "most popular console on the market" than both Wii and Wii U were more powerful than their most popular competitor(s) at their time of release, while Switch will not be.

On the other hand, if we go by hardware releases, Switch is coming out in the same product cycle as Scorpio and PS4 Pro, not Xbone and PS4, so it looks to have about the same power gap as Wii U had versus PS4/Xbone.



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curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Regardless, PS3/Xbox360/Wii where consoles of same gene and they were on market basically in same time.

Even if compare Switch power to Scorpio that is rumored that will be 6TF console, again Wii was less powerful compared to PS3/Xbox 360, than Switch will be compared to Scorpio,but that really doesn't matter because XB1/PS4 consoles will be still on market and actual will be more popular versions of consoles.

True, just a problem with Wii U is that's was stronger/on pair with previous gen not with curent gen.

Point is that for first time from GC, gap power between Nintendo console and main competitors on market will be smallest.

Well PS2 was still the most popular console on the market when Wii launched though, and Wii was stronger than PS2.

Likewise, Wii U had a year before PS4 and Xbone launched in which it was stronger than its competitors, PS3 and 360.

So if we go by "most popular console on the market" than both Wii and Wii U were more powerful than their most popular competitor(s) at their time of release, while Switch will not be.

On the other hand, if we go by hardware releases, Switch is coming out in the same product cycle as Scorpio and PS4 Pro, not Xbone and PS4, so it looks to have about the same power gap as Wii U had versus PS4/Xbone.

PS2/GC were last gen consoles when PS3/Xbox360/Wii arrived.

Wii U is same generation like PS4/XB1, not in same generation like PS3/Xbox360.

You missing point, point is that PS4/XB1 are still this gen consoles same like improved versions of them, Pro/Scorpio.

Switch coming at half of XB1/PS4 cycle and with Pro/Scorpio, but again Pro/Scorpio are not next gen consoles. Yes, we could say that Switch compared to Pro/Scorpio will be something similar like Wii U to XB1/PS4, but huge difference is that XB1/PS4 will remain strongest current gen consoles on market with full suport in future also, and that actually this time Nintendo console have very modern hardware and tech compared to Wii U.



Miyamotoo said:

PS2/GC were last gen consoles when PS3/Xbox360/Wii arrived.

Wii U is same generation like PS4/XB1, not in same generation like PS3/Xbox360.

You missing point, point is that PS4/XB1 are still this gen consoles same like improved versions of them, Pro/Scorpio.

Switch coming at half of XB1/PS4 cycle and with Pro/Scorpio, but again Pro/Scorpio are not next gen consoles. Yes, we could say that Switch compared to Pro/Scorpio will be something similar like Wii U to XB1/PS4, but huge difference is that XB1/PS4 will remain strongest current gen consoles on market with full suport in future also, and that actually this time Nintendo console have very modern hardware and tech compared to Wii U.

"Generations" has become a practically irrelevant term in this day and age, to be honest.

Switch, Scorpio, and Pro are all releasing within about a year of each other, whether we want to call it a new "generation" or not, they are the same product cycle. The standard PS4 and Xbone still being popular and supported in 2017 is just like PS3/360 still being popular and supported when Wii U came out, and PS2 still being popular and supported when Wii came out.



curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:

PS2/GC were last gen consoles when PS3/Xbox360/Wii arrived.

Wii U is same generation like PS4/XB1, not in same generation like PS3/Xbox360.

You missing point, point is that PS4/XB1 are still this gen consoles same like improved versions of them, Pro/Scorpio.

Switch coming at half of XB1/PS4 cycle and with Pro/Scorpio, but again Pro/Scorpio are not next gen consoles. Yes, we could say that Switch compared to Pro/Scorpio will be something similar like Wii U to XB1/PS4, but huge difference is that XB1/PS4 will remain strongest current gen consoles on market with full suport in future also, and that actually this time Nintendo console have very modern hardware and tech compared to Wii U.

"Generations" has become a practically irrelevant term in this day and age, to be honest.

Switch, Scorpio, and Pro are all releasing within about a year of each other, whether we want to call it a new "generation" or not, they are the same product cycle. The standard PS4 and Xbone still being popular and supported in 2017 is just like PS3/360 still being popular and supported when Wii U came out, and PS2 still being popular and supported when Wii came out.

Well maybe they are becoming irrelevant, but for now PS4/Pro, XB1/Scorpio will all be part of same gen, Pro/Scorpio are not next gen consoles they are improved version of current consoles.

Totaly difrent things, when PS4/XB1 arived on market they were truly next gen consoles, PS3/Xbox360 in that time were around 7-8 years old, and around year after PS4/XB1 arrived on market PS3/Xbox360 start losing support and today usually don't have truly next gen ports for PS3/Xbox360, while Pro arived on market 3 years after PS4 and basicly its just a more expansive version of PS4 (basicly 4k PS4) console not brand new console or gen, Pro is not replacing base PS4 on market, they will coexist (you will have cheaper and more price PS4 console) and they will have full suport together at least until PS5 arives on market, not to mention that base PS4 will continue selling much better than Pro version of console (just look sales of base PS4 and Pro in Japan for instance, this week 110k base model vs 8k for Pro model), and instal base of base PS4 model will always be much larger than Pro instal base.



It bugs me a little because I really believe the Switch will get basically no serious 3rd party support for major multiplats, it will simply lack the performance to port them without looking awful compared to the competition.

I have zero interest in mobile gaming, so something that is heavily compromised to be a mobile system with money going to the screen/battery/etc is a waste to me.

If there was a set-top version with no screen/battery/etc and the price was cut down to just the component value (hypothetically say this thing is $249, but the BOM % of the thing is half screen/battery), then they could sell this thing for $129 and I'd feel happy buying the 'home' version.

The games that will be big on this thing (Zelda, Mario, etc) would have all run fine on the WiiU anyway, so personally, this thing isn't for me. I'd just be irritated looking at the thing sitting there connected to my TV anyway, when I'd know that the games could look much better if the full cost had gone into an uncompromised standard console rather than a hybrid with a screen that I would literally never look at, and a battery pack I would absolutely never use.

It would be every bit as dumb as buying a laptop instead of a desktop and then NEVER leaving it anywhere but on top of a desk.

I would have zero complaints if they had simply made two versions of it. Home version, and hybrid version. Their choice means I'll never buy one.



Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

"Generations" has become a practically irrelevant term in this day and age, to be honest.

Switch, Scorpio, and Pro are all releasing within about a year of each other, whether we want to call it a new "generation" or not, they are the same product cycle. The standard PS4 and Xbone still being popular and supported in 2017 is just like PS3/360 still being popular and supported when Wii U came out, and PS2 still being popular and supported when Wii came out.

Well maybe they are becoming irrelevant, but for now PS4/Pro, XB1/Scorpio will all be part of same gen, Pro/Scorpio are not next gen consoles they are improved version of current consoles.

Totaly difrent things, when PS4/XB1 arived on market they were truly next gen consoles, PS3/Xbox360 in that time were around 7-8 years old, and around year after PS4/XB1 arrived on market PS3/Xbox360 start losing support and today usually don't have truly next gen ports for PS3/Xbox360, while Pro arived on market 3 years after PS4 and basicly its just a more expansive version of PS4 (basicly 4k PS4) console not brand new console or gen, Pro is not replacing base PS4 on market, they will coexist (you will have cheaper and more price PS4 console) and they will have full suport together at least until PS5 arives on market, not to mention that base PS4 will continue selling much better than Pro version of console (just look sales of base PS4 and Pro in Japan for instance, this week 110k base model vs 8k for Pro model), and instal base of base PS4 model will always be much larger than Pro instal base.

Still, the worst versions on 3rd party games and no major 3rd party multiplat releases are all but assured.