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So, I've  been seeing a lot of talk on here about the NS, and it seems some people are fine with building up expectations the console probably just isn't able to meet. Yes, there was little shown, and the specs aren't revealed but looking at probability some things are so close to certain its unreal. This also isn't a thread to bash Nintendo, I'm actually gonna praise the NS a bit here. This is just to keep expectations in check.

1: Major third party multiplats are going to be worse on NS, and will more than likely run like garbage in handheld mode. This will more than likely mean these games will only be there for a year or two then disappear (like Wii U). The carts by Eurogamer has leaked are 32 GB. Keep that in mind.

2: The above will matter less because Japanese devs are gonna support the crap out of it with big budget exclusives. Remember Bravely Default? At 1080p it's gonna blow your mind. Japanese devs are gonna be there because its gonna sell like mad. I don't see an outcome where this isn't a raging success in Japan.

3: Switch is a bad name. Like, REALLY BAD. People are pretty much just calling it NS, which doesn't roll off the tongue either. This point in the overall scheme of things matters little to none though.

4: Outside Japan, its sales will be good, but will more than likely trail the Scorpio and PS4 Pro. That said, it will also be successful. It'll be a 7th gen scenario where all gaming companies earn big profits.

5: NS exclusives will mostly run just fine on the go. When they aren't trying to appeal to a range of gaming specs from handheld NS, to full blown 4k HDR gaming with Scorpio, the games will work just fine in portable mode.

6: The amount of 1st party games is going to be incredible. The same engines Nintendo had to struggle making during the Wii U era have now been made (thank you Retro), and all the devs gotta do now is make games, which they have assets from most their franchises already made as well. And hell yeah are they going to. It's gonna be a great time for lovers of 1st party. This will be bolstered by films and IOS games. 

7: The tiny controllers in two player mode will feel awkward and will likely rarely get used. This is just obvious.

8: Battery life will likely be 3 hours roughly. Expecting more is crazy.

9: Nintendo already confirmed there is not another GPU, ect in the dock. Games will look the same with a resolution bump and better frame rate. It's just the way it is guys. "Providing power to the system" just means the tablet will run off the wall socket, your secret sauce is in another castle. That said, the games will look fine. Noticeably worse than the others, but fine.

10: Let's get back to reality. This gen for Nintendo is gonna be great because of the software, not the hardware or graphical power, and that's fine. 

 

Well that's it. I know this will come off as obvious to most people, but let's get the rest on board to not be set up for disappointment.



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Says who?



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FunFan said:
Says who?

The 3 minute teaser.



bigtakilla said:

So, I've  been seeing a lot of talk on here about the NS, and it seems some people are fine with building up expectations the console probably just isn't able to meet. Yes, there was little shown, and the specs aren't revealed but looking at probability some things are so close to certain its unreal. This also isn't a thread to bash Nintendo, I'm actually gonna praise the NS a bit here. This is just to keep expectations in check.

1: Major third party multiplats are going to be worse on NS, and will more than likely run like garbage in handheld mode. This will more than likely mean these games will only be there for a year or two then disappear (like Wii U). The carts by Eurogamer has leaked are 32 GB. Keep that in mind.

2: The above will matter less because Japanese devs are gonna support the crap out of it with big budget exclusives. Remember Bravely Default? At 1080p it's gonna blow your mind. Japanese devs are gonna be there because its gonna sell like mad. I don't see an outcome where this isn't a raging success in Japan.

3: Switch is a bad name. Like, REALLY BAD. People are pretty much just calling it NS, which doesn't roll off the tounge either. This point in the overall scheme of things matters little to none though.

4: Outside Japan, its sale will be good, but will more than likely trail the Scorpio and PS4 Pro. That said, it will also be successful. It'll be a 7th gen scenario where all gaming companies earn big profits.

5: NS exclusives will mostly run just fine on the go. When they aren't trying to appeal to a range of gaming specs from handheld NS, to full blown 4k HDR gaming with Scorpio, the games will work just fine in portable mode.

6: The amount of 1st party games is going to be incredible. The same engines Nintendo had to struggle making during the Wii U era have now been made (thank you Retro), and all the devs gotta do now is make games, which they have assets from most their franchises already made as well. And hell yeah are they going to. It's gonna be a great time for lovers of 1st party. This will be bolstered by films and IOS games. 

7: The tiny controllers in two player mode will feel awkward and will likely rarely get used. This is just obvious.

8: Battery life will likely be 3 hours roughly. Expecting more is crazy.

9: Nintendo already confirmed there is not another GPU, ect in the dock. Games will look the same with a resolution bump and better frame rate. It's just the way it is guys. "Providing power to the system just means the tablet will run off the wall socket, your secret sauce is in another castle. That said, the games will look fine. Noticeably worse than the others, but fine.

10: Let's get back to reality. This gen for Nintendo is gonna be great because of the software, not the hardware or graphical power, and that's fine. 

 

Well that's it. I know this will come off as obvious to most people, but let's get the rest on board to not be set up for disappointment.

1. Agree.

2. Maybe. I don't see a reason why it would "sell like mad". Sure, a success in Japan, but not madly appealing - plus, after all is said and done, this is a home console more than it is a portable - this is will make many Japanese devs struggle in adapting games (at first, at least).

3. It's bad, but it's marketable and practical. I approve of their choice.

4. I still expect it to be niche outside of Japan. Depending on Nintendo's actions with price+marketing, from doing a little better than the Wii U at its best, to 2xWii U performance.

5. Agree.

6. Probably. But now, that this is probably one device for everything from Nintendo, think: smaller, simpler titles from handhelds are gonna be gone. Prices are gonna go up for everything (since this is a home platform). It's not as clear cut as "boom, 2x the games" (amount). iOS? Doubtful.

7. Don't know/care :P

8. Yeah, it's probably gonna be mediocre/worse. Which further bars it from replacing a handheld well.

9. Yes.

10. I fully expect it to be a niche product, so a great gen for Nintendo fans - maybe, but not nearly as great for Nintendo itself.



I mostly agree on the software part. I'm still not sure about the western audience though, but I'll say that the NX could beat the Xbox for a while after it's lauching in the west.



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All talk when all we have to go off currently is that 3 minute trailer. Nice predictions though.



If the dock doesn't have any specs in it, then frame rates will be the same. The TV is only going to upscale the resolution.



Random_Matt said:
If the dock doesn't have any specs in it, then frame rates will be the same. The TV is only going to upscale the resolution.

The dock delivers a stable supply of power -> more power available to chipset than battery -> -> system runs faster -> higher res rendered in reality (not upscale) -> possibly more FPS as well.



Random_Matt said:
If the dock doesn't have any specs in it, then frame rates will be the same. The TV is only going to upscale the resolution.

The tech in the handheld will be able to run at a higher clock rate is my guess. I think it's VERY likely to be the case too.  



Xen said:
Random_Matt said:
If the dock doesn't have any specs in it, then frame rates will be the same. The TV is only going to upscale the resolution.

The dock delivers a stable supply of power -> more power available to chipset than battery -> higher res rendered in reality (not upscale) -> possibly more FPS as well.

My thoughts exactly. This should be the case.