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It's a hybrid, that is fashionable next to the television. It's a high powered portable console, not to be mistaken with a traditional stationary console.



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DonFerrari said:
teigaga said:

The PSP and PSV aren't designed around this philosophy. When is a streaming box a streaming box instead of a gaming console? Or a gaming console a console instead of a streaming box?

These semantics are not scientific, it's all just marketing and intended use. What is the definition of a home console?

My point is no one cares what title these boxes fit under, they care about function. The NS functions as a console and that's built into its control scheme and hardware choice. The thread "Nintendo "has quit console gaming" is based on the NS not having a Gpu in its dock. As if people care whether it's in the dock or in the tablet, the real discussion is one of power, but the Wii and Wii U were both weak so I'm saying the discussion is kind of pointless.

You may say they weren't designed around that, but still it launched with the functionality around. So intention defines what it is?

NS can function as a console as much as a PSTV can as well. so it isn't exacly new.

The thread is more about the dock having little use besides being a chargepod with tv connection, making it much more of a handheld hooked to a tv than a console that you may carry and play with or a hybrid.

RolStoppable said:

If Switch connects to the TV and then offers four player splitscreen games, then it's clearly not the same as plugging a Sony handheld or any other device into a TV or monitor. In that case Switch would truly change its functionality to the one of a home console and at that point you would be hard pressed to disregard it as a home console. Switch obviously also works as a handheld, but that's the point of a hybrid; it's both.

It isn't the same, but evolving a concept or idea isn't the same as making it a home console.

And besides nintendo saying it's a home console on their reveal they took almost all the time on the presentation showing it as a handheld and not as a home console, so their narrative doesn't fit.

As I said, this is all semantics. When every device we have is multifunction and are many things all at once, intended use and purpose is of course important, as is function. Is the Ipad touch an mp3 device, Tablet or portable gaming machine?  Is the Apple watch  a watch or a mini tablet device?  Is apple TV a streaming box or a home games console? 

 

I will end my involvement in this thread by responding to the OPs question. As Nintendo has spent the last decade producing weak hardware for their consoles, this to me feels no different. Rumours suggest this  being a bigger leap over WiiU than Wii was over Gamecube. I'm at least happy that their gimmick this time round will mean more quality games from them, something I think we all agree is a good thing. As I will likely use the handheld functionality a fair bit, I don't mind paying the additional cost a screen and battery bring :)

 



GhaudePhaede010 said:
Ljink96 said:

Exactly.

People don't understand Nintendo, and it's best that you don't try because they're trying to be different. It's a home gaming console, Nintendo has said this many times. Its neutral position is in the dock. But it's also a handheld. What's not to get?

In that case, my daughter's iPad and Galaxy are home consoles... oh wait, they aren't!

They probably don't have a dock station with USB and HDMI ports and technology that runs Breath of the Wild, SKyrim or Mario kart, yeah because they run freaking flappy bird and candy crush. 



Its a new concept that puts into question the need of using categories such as "console" or "handheld". People need to drop their old close minded glasses and stop trying to define the Switch using previous and, possibly, soon to be archaic conventions.

This is no different from trying to define people between Straight and Homo without considering all the options that lie in between or even outside the paradigm.

Thinking about it, the way the tablet slides into the dock looks kinky.



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End of an era. Such a shame but they really goofed it with the wiiu and I guess they didn't want another try.



                  

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Whatever we try to spin it as such, it's a video game console, which plays games. I think we're getting too riled up with debating whether or not Switch is a home console or a handheld. Basically, it can do BOTH! Wanna play it on the big screen with the detachable controller or a pro controller like a home console? Yes you can. Decide you want to take its tablet and bring it with you to another place or on the road like a handheld? You can do that too! Each part can do what the other can't. In the end, we've only scratched the surface of what Switch can do. What can we expect from the games that will be released, let alone what kind of games will we see? What other features will be there? How will it connect to My Nintendo, Nintendo Account, Miitomo, etc.? There's still more we don't know.



GhaudePhaede010 said:

Nintendo has not left the home console market. This console is to 3DS what DS was to Game Boy. You believe Nintendo is finished in the home console industry because you have no vision for the future.

I have maintained since the Eurogamer rumor that if this console is their next offering, they now have a hand held that satiated the home console audience and with that flexibility, Nintendo can modify Wii and Wii U technology to create a virtual reality home console (changing how we view home consoles) which is different from their competitors because it is the stat quo of the console as opposed to an add-on. Plus, they can do it while keeping the price of the product as low as possible.

I was basically laughed at when I said it and I am the first to say it, but there is no reason to think it could not be their realistic future. I was the first to guess what the Wii U would be and I was laughed at and ignored back then so it is nothing new to me to be treated this way.

weren't you one of the people that swore up and down that this wouldnt be a hybrid?



FunFan said:
Its a new concept that puts into question the need of using categories such as "console" or "handheld". People need to drop their old close minded glasses and stop trying to define the Switch using previous and, possibly, soon to be archaic conventions.

This.

Ditch the concepts 'home console' and 'handheld', and you have Switch.



ugh... so much ignorance and shallow thinking when considering portable to home consoles.

It is a gaming console. It will be the only one with Nintendo IPs. It will be the only one with exclusives worth a unique purchase. Partner sheet demonstrates it will have the technology to allow all ports as well as the game creators to bring those ports.

Until first year games and real support is confirmed, there is no justification for negative reaction or pessimism.



Everyone is calling it a tablet when it doesn't even have a fucking touchscreen. lol