Not that I actually believe the article, but how large is that group?  MAYBE 1% of those who want to buy the PS4 Pro?  The VAST majority are going to buy this for games.

who calls it a gaming console? Not sony! It's a entertainment system. It's what sony has always called their systems. And if it was just a gaming console, Then why the hell is the only commericals on tv the last few months for their vue service. Not games?

We honestly don't know what kinda drive is in the PS4pro. But if sony says it won't play UHD BR, then it's a safe assumption to say it's the same kinda drive that's in the PS4.

A standard 1080p BR movie takes anywhere between 10-25GB depending on the quality of audio put on the disc. A UHD movie will take that up to almost 40-80GB per movie. Technically, the PS4/PS4pro can play UHD movies that fit ona 50GB BR disc cause they can read those. But sony can say UHD BR capable cause it's not conforming to the UHD BR standard which requires that BR-XL discs are used. Those have at least 4 layers to the standard BR disc 2 layers. 

So yh, not a chance in hell that Sony puts in a BR-XL drive in the PS4pro (which it will have to do to meet UHD BR requirement standards) then disable it. 

Errr.... commercials for games come along when games are about release. And while it may do other things.... the primary thing it does is play games. That's why it comes with a game controller and not a remote control out of the box. If that doesn't tell you what it's primary focus is then I don't know what else will. 

Simply put, for anyone to say they wanted to buy a PS4pro but are not going to because it doesn't play UHD movie "discs"? well.... let's just say that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard of late. Because it's not like it wont play UHD movies. Just not the disc.... Hell, you can even download UHD movies if you simply don't want to stream. There are options. 

You don't even need a PS console for Vue. Now Sony can't even advertize their other products.

Didn't say you had to have a ps console for vue, But dont act like its avaiable everywhere though. Very limited. They advertise vue with a ps4 controller. And did i say that sony couldn't advertise their products? No i didn't. Point was Game fans want to call it a Game console and everything else it does is not important. Thats not they way sony sees it. and to a point a lot of their fans who don't hang out in a gaming forum, see it as more as well. Thats why people complain about the lack of 4k bluray support. It's important to a lot of people. To make a 4k machine that does a lot except do True 4k. 4k streaming lags behind 4k disc based content, 4k upscaling no matter how good it looks is still not true 4k. Sony fans of all people should understand this, since for the last 3 years It's been a point that xbox one struggles with 1080p and most are upscaled 1080p. It's been sonys fans most go to point for the ps4 vs xbox one conversation. of course closley followed by the exclusives thing. I personally dont have a dog in the fight. I work on both and have both companys systems. Just dont like the path sony is beggining to take.  and PS4 has had at least 50 games released in the last couple months and atleast 15 left this month. I had to look it up since their have been no commercials for any of them.  So push vue and not the games?

I still think it's the wrong decision they made

I think this is closer to the truth.

I have a sizable collection of DVDs.  200+.  I have 42 blu-ray movies.  I may end up with ~100 blu-rays all told.  I have about 88 digital movies on Amazon (bunch of TV shows too).  I will probably end up with several hundred, maybe even a thousand if Amazon Digital and I live long enhough.

I have zero need to invest in UHD Blu-ray.  It would be a serious waste.

You mean a separate box player like Xb oneS? That's the problem here for Sony, they have competing interests. On the one hand they want to launch their stand alone players and give them room to establish, on the other hand they have a direct competitor in consoles that has a point of difference in its favour, which has up until now always either been a point of differnce in Sony's favour, or been equal between competitors. This is the first time Sony has been at a disadvantage on this particular front. And it was a mistake to be the one behind here.

I would have thought that the number of people who are going to buy a PS4Pro AND a UHD blu-ray player is very small indeed, and if I was one such person I'd be in a bit of a snit about PS4Pro not having that functionality and I would go out of my way to buy a non-Sony stand alone player, because they are being dicks for withholding that functionality on PS4P. Conversely a stand alone player is not going to succeed or fail based on sales to PS4/PS4P owners buying one, the success of a stand alone player will be in its ability to sell to non-gamers who just want a UHD blu-ray player to watch movies. I would also be supremely pissed at Sony if they implemented UHD playback out of the blue and I wasted money buying a stand alone player. I think Sony needs to secretly get the word out that a future firmware update will implement UHD/HDR playback and that people who buy a separate player in addition to a PS4P do so because they are impatient to get a UHD player and not because they think PS4P will never be capable of it, or not capable of it for a long period of time.

There doesn't actually seem to be much of a business case for withholding UHD playback on PS4P, unless of course there is a significant price differential between PS4P and UHD blu ray skus. In which case one might ask why is there a big difference in price of the technology is the same, and a stand alone player has much less functionality (i.e. it can't play games).

I think Sony got caught with their pants down wrt MS implementing UHD blu-ray in the Xb oneS, and the only reason there's any delay in UHD functionality for PS4P is because they need to prep the firmware update to implement it. I will be very surprise if the first significant firmware update after PS4P launch will include UHD playback. Of course, Sony might not put out a significant firmware update unti January or February, which means they will try to catch some holiday sales for the stand alone player.

It's a point of difference in OneS's favour and if you are relatively neutral on the exclusive games then UHD playback could be enough to tip the scales and get you to buy a OneS. It's kinda silly to say people are buying for the games, when we are talkiing about 2 gaming consoles going head to head. Of course people are buying one or other console primarily for the games, and Xb oneS delivers that with a largely equivalent library of games. So people do get sold on other features additional to the gaming aspect. Lots of people bought PS3's last gen becuase it played Blu-ray movies. Sony always promoted playstation as having wider entertainment functionality, PS1 CD music playback, PS2 DVD movie playback. But now all of a sudden movie play back is no longer a relevant conversation in console buying decisions. 

Cable cutters are most of them tech enthusiast whom are very likely gamers, so of course Sony would advert to them first, then maybe they can get their family adn friends on it too. The point is that Sony isn't only a gaming company.

Sadly the Blu-Ray format is niche, the UHD Blu-Ray is a super niche inside a niche, it's just stupid for Sony to lose $15-20 per console for the minuscule amount of users that would use the feature. In fact they should consider releasing an SKU without Blu-Ray  at all.