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Is Jesus Christ the Lord?

Yes. 58 40.00%
 
No. 78 53.79%
 
Maybe. 9 6.21%
 
Total:145
VGPolyglot said:
The Bible, to my knowledge, is very one-sided. We only see it from the point of view of God. How do we know that he is not deceiving us and lying to us? God seems to be very authoritarian, and seems to want complete control. Maybe Satan is just a really nice guy who's been misunderstood.

If you assume the bible is true, God is the creator of all things, and every living thing in the universe only exists because of him, so then surely he has every right to be authoritarian and want complete control. God GAVE us and the Angels free will however, if god was a complete dictator Satan and Humans would have been destroyed the moment they rebelled, or alternatively we wouldn't have free will and wouldn't be able to rebel in the first place.



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Peh said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I was referring to countries whose large majority are Christians in religion, even if tou take the 20 happiest countries of the world, 19/20 are Christian countries (ie. about 70% of the population are Christians in religion)

Happiest countries in the world - Business Insider
Happiest Countries in the World

eh... I wouldn't make such a bold statements. 

And after checking craighopkins List, it's not accurate. For example. He listed China as 7th place. Where as Christianity in China is only 2.3-4% of it's population. But it's not a happy country. At least of what that questionable source says.

Netherlands on the other hand with 23-44% of christians is ranked as 7th. The rest of the countries are as about 70%.  But still, I don't think that this number has anything to do with why a country is being labeled as happy(?)  I presume that the reason for being happy are that those are mainly 1st world countries with a secular state. And that's the keynote here.

 

China is not even in the top20 Happiest countries, and yeah, I mean % population, so nothing to do with China really

I believe that religion is connected on how people live and how they view things, as well as each other, so of course it is connected to happiness

also, Brazil is 17th and it's poor, and the very rich Qatar, Oman, Emirates, Saudi Arabia are close (and better in economy than Europe-US btw) but not as happy



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sundin13 said:
"The regulation of the IOC vetoes manifestations of religious nature, commercial or political during the events organized by the entity."

Its not anti-Christian, it just a policy to avoid the politicization of the games. Makes sense to me. And even still, the worst that will happen (according to your article) is a warning.

This is just a sensationalized non-issue.

This seems to have been ignored but I thought I'd quote it to bring it to people's attention.  As long as this is applied fairly across the board I see no problem with the example mentioned in the OP.  



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KLAMarine said:
Zkuq said:

I've talked to a person who says that in the eyes of God, sin is sin no matter what kind it is. As long as it's against His will, it's sin and that's all there is to it. Sadly, it also seems like the logical conclusion according to my knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. It does make sense if you look at it from a certain angle (a crime is a crime).

Disclaimer: I don't know what to believe in. Science still leaves enough room for God to exist, but there's also no scientific evidence supporting God. I'm happy enough with recognizing the situation and not making up my mind because it doesn't really matter right now. I'd rather give God the benefit of doubt than outright deny His existence.

I get the logic but I do scratch my head at the notion that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't hurt anyone like murder or theft.

Homosexuality isn't a sin in the Bible. All sex is sinful unless between husband and wife, there's no difference between heterosexual or homosexual sex outside of marriage, it's all sinful according to the Bible. Being homosexual is not sinful, the Bible only says you can't have sex, it doesn't say being gay is sinful. The only difference is that marriage is a heterosexual institution because it is meant for procreation, and until science figures out otherwise a homosexual marriage cannot produce children, a 3rd party is required as well as 3rd party genetics. The Christians have merely incorrectly and over conservatively interpretted a few passages from the Old Testament.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Peh said:

eh... I wouldn't make such a bold statements. 

And after checking craighopkins List, it's not accurate. For example. He listed China as 7th place. Where as Christianity in China is only 2.3-4% of it's population. But it's not a happy country. At least of what that questionable source says.

Netherlands on the other hand with 23-44% of christians is ranked as 7th. The rest of the countries are as about 70%.  But still, I don't think that this number has anything to do with why a country is being labeled as happy(?)  I presume that the reason for being happy are that those are mainly 1st world countries with a secular state. And that's the keynote here.

 

China is not even in the top20 Happiest countries, and yeah, I mean % population, so nothing to do with China really

I believe that religion is connected on how people live and how they view things, as well as each other, so of course it is connected to happiness

also, Brazil is 17th and it's poor, and the very rich Qatar, Oman, Emirates, Saudi Arabia are close (and better in economy than Europe-US btw) but not as happy

I didn't really want to respond in this thread but there you have it.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but most people here in the Netherlands and in those Northern European countries don't give jack shit about religion. We are on that list because we are some of the most prosperous countries in the world. Even the people that are statistically considered "poor", would have it pretty decent in most other places. Unlike those Arab countries, distribution of wealth is much more balanced, meaning more happy people instead of just a happy few.

Religion has absolutely no impact on the majority of people's daily lives as people do what they want with whom they want, it by law serves no role in government, it has had no impact on how we built our economy. And this is not something that's new, this sort of influence has been steadily declining for centuries now. Churches have been and are still being closed left and right, to either be demolished or repurposed into libraries, art-galleries or apartment buildings. No, and I won't debate this, but you are very wrong, christianity or religion in general is not connected to happiness here.



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Not all cultures believe in freedom of speech as much as others, and the ones that have are starting to not. Heck, even in America, we've been hijacked by two political movements (one anti muslism, and the other liberal one anti Christian) that are both against freedom of speech for all people.

I am encouraged that this guy had that head band on. Also, the two swimmers that straight up threw down about Jesus on their tv air time was just awesome.



binary solo said:
KLAMarine said:

I get the logic but I do scratch my head at the notion that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't hurt anyone like murder or theft.

Homosexuality isn't a sin in the Bible. All sex is sinful unless between husband and wife, there's no difference between heterosexual or homosexual sex outside of marriage, it's all sinful according to the Bible. Being homosexual is not sinful, the Bible only says you can't have sex, it doesn't say being gay is sinful. The only difference is that marriage is a heterosexual institution because it is meant for procreation, and until science figures out otherwise a homosexual marriage cannot produce children, a 3rd party is required as well as 3rd party genetics. The Christians have merely incorrectly and over conservatively interpretted a few passages from the Old Testament.

"Homosexuality is not bad unless you act homosexual."



Brazil is a country with a majoritarian christian population, so expressions like that are pretty common here.

Like it or not, religion is still part of the Brazilian culture in many ways, even our main holidays are basically religious holidays, like October, 12th (Our Lady Patroness´day), Carnaval/Ash Wednesday, Christmas etc.

Religous figures are present in many popular folk parties here, like June Parties (similar to Solstice Festivals in Europe/NA), Processions Festivals etc. etc.

It´s just lame and dumb to criticize a simple expression like Neymar´s bandanna. If that´s the case, then they should have banned images of the Statue of Christ the Redemeer in OG merchandising items and Tv streamings



Fei-Hung said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Amazing stand on this issue man, I applaud you. I would also not care if a athlete made the satanic gesture or whatever, so WHY they had to forbid the religious bandana? Reports say the athletes where also forbid of thanking God in their celebrations. ridiculous.

I'm not sure about that since Mo Farah always drops to his knees and offers prayers when he wins. In fact he did that and even raised his hands for the Lords prayer (the Muslim version). 

Hahaha "the Muslim version" you meant du'a.



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TallSilhouette said:
WagnerPaiva said:

I do not know how it is in your country, but here they are trying to pass laws to let kids leran about sex in their tender age, with books with drawnings, porn for kids almost, and the focus will be on gay sex.

I think it is harmful, being exposed to sex, any sex, too early makes kids go kinda crazy, and it will probably make easier for the pedophiles and rapists, cause children may want to try those thing school showed them.

I think this benefits no one, specially NOT homossexuals.

I have some homo friends (female) that think this is a really bad idea as well.

The thing is: I do not see this stopping at all, as you said, things are changing way too fast and any resistance is being faced with a huge backlash.

I guess we are going for quite a ride in the next 50-100 years, when these kids become adults.

What does gay marriage have to do with early sex education?

Nothing, we never talked about homossexual marriage. But that we do have it here for a while, the civil union of homossexuals is not a big deal here. What we do not have is the obligation that all religious groups celebrate the marriage, but some religious groups in Brazil do not celebrate even heterossexual marriages, so no one cares that much.

The books for kids I talked about is to encourage sex play with the same sex and stuff like that, pretty graphic stuff, kinda evil, and for ages 0-6.



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