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Frogger on 14 August 2016
97alexk said:

I thought women with burqas ''choose'' to have them on. What a bunch of bullcra*p

They do. I don't see how this symbolic gesture implies in anyway that they don't. I don't see the "bullcr*p" that you see.



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hershel_layton on 15 August 2016
Jumpin said:
foodfather said:
Good for them. They aren't going to denounce centuries old worth of customs overnight but it's a start.

Actually, the modern tradition has only been customary since the late 1970s. In the 1950s and 60s, it was very rare in the Muslim world (with the exception of Saudi Arabia). It was banned in many countries until the Arab Spring when bans were lifted. The Palestinian Queen and the women of the Jordanian Hashemite dynasty do not wear any kind of head dress or face masks either.

Yea, but dem muzleems ruined our damn country! No more visible titties or bacon

 

 

 

/sarcasm

 

Unfortunately though, people don't care for facts. Apparently in this world, you're either a racist muslim hater or an ISIS supporter who is using Taqiyya to secretly help muslims. Can't have an honest opinion on anything regarding Islam or Muslims without the left or right tearing you to pieces.



 

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KungKras on 15 August 2016
FragilE^ said:
KungKras said:

Burqas in Sweden? lol what?
I live in gothenburg which is the second larget city and I do see muslim women in the city a lot I've never seen a burqa.
It has to be pretty rare.

*Edit* I'm being dumb and confusing burqa and hijab.
I live in Sweden too. Hijabs are being used by pretty much every foreign-looking woman in my town (Åstorp) and around here, in Skåne (south Sweden) you'll find that same pattern everywhere. Burqas are indeed rare. I have seen them here in Åstorp, I've seen them in Helsingborg, and I've seen them in Malmö. It is ABSOLUTELY a thing in Sweden. Still, it is kinda rare.

Never seen one in Gothenburg sounds like a lie.

I don't doubt that there might be a few women brainwashed enough to wear them in gothenburg. But there are probably few enough that I've never seen one.



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konnichiwa on 15 August 2016
Nuvendil said:
konnichiwa said:
Yeah I am also following the news daily and on computer hourly.

Using this site btw: http://isis.liveuamap.com

It is ofcourse good news they got the city but it is not really an important big city their were estimated 20.000 residents with 500 isis troops and the city was surrounded for alteast two months before they captured it. Hundreds of those 500 isis troops escaped recently with using human shields.


When ISIS is still in control of 1-2 million people 20.000 doesn't sound a lot especially from now on it only gets harder. It is kind of troublesome that it all takes so long.

Well IS is estimated to have lost over 1000 in the battle.  As for importance, it's not the numbers it's the location.  Manbij being contested prevented the Kurds and Syrians from putting full pressure on IS's territory connecting it to Turkey, which has allowed IS to keep its smuggling route open to that region.  With Manbij fallen, the closing of that route is imminent it would seem.  Which will further reduce their financial ability to make war.  Also, the more territory lost, the more the fear of ISIL continues to lessen.  Also, if the route to Turkey is closed, the ability to smuggle IS combatants into Europe will be greatly hampered.  So Manbij is an important victory.

Of course, don't expect this positivity in the media to last.  The moment a single airstrike goes awry or a new attack - no matter how rudimentary - happens, the fear mongering will return in full force along with sensationalized hate-mongering of whatever country launches said airstrikes.  Nevermind the consistent victories and momentum of the past several months and the thousands of flawless airstrikes that have been crucial to these victories.


That is the thing Turkey doesn't want the kurdish pushing harder.  Turkey agreed that the Kurdish/US/YPG etc may go and conquer Manbij but today already said that Kurdish troops have to withdraw from Manbij. I expect Turkey to demand it for YPG/US troops aswell or atleast the majority of the troops. 

To be fair about the media they make manbij look like a big deal but when you hear years ago that ISIS/ISIL will be finished soon....Well it takes a long time and ISIS is not only in Syria and Iraq. The 40% conquered land is basically 36% sand of course that is good but does not mean that much.

Especially when a few years ago their was no ISIL in Libya or Egypt but since then they got a small territory close to Israel in Egypt and a part of the north and important harbours of Libya. Also the number of jihad troups pledging an alliance has growing steadily around the world.

2016 not included:


SUPPORT/PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO IS

• al-I'tisam of the Koran and Sunnah [Sudan] - 1 Aug. 2014 - Support 

• Abu Sayyaf Group [Philippines] - 25 Jun. 2014 - Support

• Ansar al-Khilafah [Philippines] - 14 Aug. 2014 - Allegiance

• Ansar al-Tawhid in India [India] - 4 Oct. 2014 - Allegiance

• Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF) [Phillippines] - 13 Aug. 2014 - Support

• Bangsmoro Justice Movement (BJM) [Phillippines] - 11 Sep. 2014 - Support

• Jemaah Islamiyah [Philippines] 27 Apr. 2015 - Allegiance 

• al-Huda Battalion in Maghreb of Islam [Algeria] - 30 Jun. 2014 - Allegiance

• The Soldiers of the Caliphate in Algeria [Algeria] - 30 Sep. 2014 - Allegiance

• al-Ghurabaa [Algeria] - 7 Jul. 2015 - Allegiance

• Djamaat Houmat ad-Da'wa as-Salafiya (DHDS) [Algeria] 19 Sep. 2015 - Allegiance

• al-Ansar Battalion [Algeria] 4 Sep. 2015 - Allegiance

• Jundullah [Pakistan] - 17 Nov. 2014 - Support

• Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) [Pakistan/Uzbekistan] Video - 31 Jul. 2015 - Allegiance

• Tehreek-e-Khilafat [Pakistan] - 9 Jul. 2014 - Allegiance

• Leaders of the Mujahid in Khorasan (ten former TTP commanders) [Pakistan] - 10 Jan. 2015 - Allegiance

• Islamic Youth Shura Council [Libya] - 22 Jun. 2014 - Support

• Jaish al-Sahabah in the Levant [Syria] - 1 Jul. 2014 - Allegiance

• Martyrs of al-Yarmouk Brigade [Syria] - Dec. 2014 - Part of IS - Allegiance

• Faction of Katibat al-Imam Bukhari [Syria] - 29 Oct. 2014 - Allegiance

• Jamaat Ansar Bait al-Maqdis [Egypt] - 30 Jun. 2014 - Allegiance

• Jund al-Khilafah in Egypt [Egypt] - 23 Sep. 2014 - Allegiance

• Liwa Ahrar al-Sunna in Baalbek [Lebanon] - 30 Jun. 2014 - Allegiance

• Islamic State Libya (Darnah) [Libya] - 9 Nov. 2014 - Allegiance

• Lions of Libya [Libya] (Unconfirmed) - 24 Sep. 2014 - [Support/Allegiance]

• Shura Council of Shabab al-Islam Darnah [Libya] - 6 Oct. 2014 - Allegiance

• Jemaah Anshorut Tauhid (JAT) [Indonesia] - Aug. 2014 - Allegiance 

• Mujahideen Indonesia Timor (MIT) [Indonesia] - 1 Jul. 2014 - Allegiance

• Mujahideen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem (MSCJ) [Egypt] - 1 Oct. 2014 - Support

• Okba Ibn Nafaa Battalion [Tunisia] - 20 Sep. 2014 - Support

• Jund al-Khilafah in Tunisia [Tunisia] - 31 Mar. 2015 - Allegiance

• Central Sector of Kabardino-Balakria of the Caucasus Emirate (CE) [Russia] - 26 Apr. 2015 - Allegiance

• Mujahideen of Tunisia of Kairouan [Tunisia] 18 May 2015 - Allegiance

• Mujahideen of Yemen [Yemen] - 10 Nov. 2014 - Allegiance

• Supporters for the Islamic State in Yemen [Yemen] - 4 Sep. 2014 - Allegiance

• al-Tawheed Brigade in Khorasan [Afghanistan] - 23 Sep. 2014 - Allegiance

• Heroes of Islam Brigade in Khorasan [Afghanistan] - 30 Sep. 2014 - Allegiance

• Supporters of the Islamic State in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques [Saudi Arabia] - 2 Dec. 2014 - Support

• Ansar al-Islam [Iraq] - 8 Jan. 2015 - Allegiance

• Boko Haram [Nigeria] - 7 Mar. 2015 - Allegiance

• The Nokhchico Wilayat of the Caucasus Emirate (CE) [Russia] - 15 Jun. 2015 - Allegiance

• al-Ansar Battalion [Algeria] - 4 Sep. 2015 - Allegiance

• al-Shabaab Jubba Region Cell Bashir Abu Numan [Somalia]- 7 Dec. 2015 - Allegiance - Read more at: http://scl.io/JGXPdMa7#gs.mDeQTq4






97alexk on 15 August 2016
KungKras said:
97alexk said:

no its not. It is brainwashing. Who in the right mind would put that thing on because they choose it, the only thing i can  buy is for the heat, but that doesnt explain the burqas in sweden. Also if a women who wears a burqa just decided to want to remove it one day and dress just a bit more revealing, i bet she wouldnt be allowed to do that. I can bet you all my money on it

Burqas in Sweden? lol what?
I live in gothenburg which is the second larget city and I do see muslim women in the city a lot I've never seen a burqa.
It has to be pretty rare.

Trust me, there are plenty of them. most of them are probably not allowed to get out much or something. But what can you do. if you say anything against it you are labeled racist. I live in borås and i have seen some here, and just veil in general. Its ridiculous!



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97alexk on 15 August 2016
FragilE^ said:
KungKras said:

Burqas in Sweden? lol what?
I live in gothenburg which is the second larget city and I do see muslim women in the city a lot I've never seen a burqa.
It has to be pretty rare.

*Edit* I'm being dumb and confusing burqa and hijab.
I live in Sweden too. Hijabs are being used by pretty much every foreign-looking woman in my town (Åstorp) and around here, in Skåne (south Sweden) you'll find that same pattern everywhere. Burqas are indeed rare. I have seen them here in Åstorp, I've seen them in Helsingborg, and I've seen them in Malmö. It is ABSOLUTELY a thing in Sweden. Still, it is kinda rare.

Never seen one in Gothenburg sounds like a lie.

I seen plenty of burqas in borås. Also i think you mean veil's aswell



97alexk on 15 August 2016
spemanig said:
97alexk said:

I thought women with burqas ''choose'' to have them on. What a bunch of bullcra*p

They do. I don't see how this symbolic gesture implies in anyway that they don't. I don't see the "bullcr*p" that you see.

No, the most extreme demand burqa, then are all people wearing veil's. Thats even worse almost because they are more common