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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Eurogamer: Nintendo NX is a portable console with detachable controllers (It also connects to your TV, and runs cartridges)

Soundwave on 26 July 2016
Hiku said:
Soundwave said:

Well I mean maybe the device is not made for you?

I think it probably is primarily targetted to a new generation of kids who consume 90% of their entertainment content on tablets and love to play on them everywhere they go. 

Nintendo bringing their unique brand of multiplayer fun with full games is something no other tablet can have, and I think parents will gladly rather pay $300 for one device that does it all rather than a $400 iPad + $300 game console, or $300 Nintendo console + $200 Nintendo portable. 

Tablet screens are great these days too, I'd think two people not being able to see what's going on is much of an issue. 

I hope their demographic isn't something new that comes at the expense of their core audience.
With a decent size tablet, visability is less of an issue. But they're generally a lot bigger than what I'd imagine the size of a Nintendo portable would be. Or else the concept of putting a Nintendo portable in your pocket will be gone.
These days everyone has some sort of device with entertainment on it. And I imagine people would rather use their own device if playing together on one device is the least bit uncomfortable.

Imagine the smallest possible comfortable controller you can think of, with enough buttons to accomodate todays games? To me, that would be something like a SNES controller (if it had an extra set of shoulder buttons) or a Wiimote + Nunchuck. Now think of how much space two of those would take up, and attach it to this system. That seems too clunky to me.

Nintendo don't usually ship their home consoles with more than one controller (Maybe for the NES? I can't remember.) where it's comfortable to play multiplayer games, but now they'll do it for a portable?

Kids and the family crowd are Nintendo's core audience. 

25-35 year old men who are Nintendo diehards will buy one to play the new Zelda/Mario/Smash Brothers/etc. even if they have to do so grumbling about it. 



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DanneSandin on 26 July 2016
Soundwave said:
DanneSandin said:

Yeah, having access to the mobile market is cruical for this to work. Maybe they could work out a deal with Google?

And every year or two they'd come out with a new iteration.... It would print money!

Don't need Google, in fact cutting out Google would be the point, then Nintendo could keep the 30% cut for all app revenue to themselves. 

Amazon does this already with their Kindle devices, Nintendo could do the same. 

I don't know how any of that works, but I'll take your word for it =)



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Soundwave on 26 July 2016

This thing should get good Japanese 3rd party support, even the 3DS in Japan outsold the Wii + Wii U + GameCube combined.

Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Tekken, Resident Evil, and maybe Final Fantasy should be on board. We know Sonic is.

Western devs will probably wait and see, but the portable aspect of it makes it an easier sell too I think, Western devs have always liked Nintendo's portable userbase size, but they've never been able to port their existing engines because DS/3DS/GBA were relatively weak portables.

NX could change that so who knows maybe ports of games like COD and Madden NFL direct from their console versions are possible.

Nintendo games (all of them, no more split between two platforms, so Splatoon + Pokemon RPG mainline + Zelda: Breath of the Wild + Animal Crossing + Fire Emblem all one system)

+

Japanese third party games (Monster Hunter, Tekken, Dragon Quest, Yokai, Final Fantasy?)

+ 

Android apps (Candy Crush, Snapchat, Video Player, Music Player, Angry Birds, Mobile Strike, Game Of War, Pokemon GO)

=

A good flow of content at minimum even without Western 3rd parties. 



bonzobanana on 26 July 2016

Not too keen if this really is what the NX will turn out like. It's not what I wanted or expected. Tegra is pretty weak even in the latest incarnations. I've still got my wii u for the latest zelda game and that may well be the end of the line for me Nintendo wise. I wish Nintendo well with it though.



Soundwave on 26 July 2016
Hiku said:
Soundwave said:

Kids and the family crowd are Nintendo's core audience. 

25-35 year old men who are Nintendo diehards will buy one to play the new Zelda/Mario/Smash Brothers/etc. even if they have to do so grumbling about it. 

I'm refering to these kids who would rather play together, possibly uncomfortably, on one device, instead of playing on two separate devices, at the expense of those who would buy a portable Nintendo device so they can easily bring it weith them wherever they go.
I just can't imagine two functional and comfortable controllers attached to this device not sacrificing several things in the process that Nintendo knows people like to have.
As for what parents would rather spend money on, how about just giving your kid a hand-me-down iPhone while daddy gets the latest iPhone 7?
Diehard Nintendo fans buying their system because they want to play Mario/Zelda didn't cut it with the WiiU. I bought a 3DS, but if this thing is too big for me to carry arround then they may very well lose me as a customer in the portable field as well.

Doubtful this thing is a "pocket portable". It's more likely something the size of an iPad but thicker, but that's OK. Millions upons millions of people are willing to take that around outside the house. World has changed with regards to that. 



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GhaudePhaede010 on 26 July 2016

Just when I thought there was no way Nintendo could not find a way to lure me back in. The only hope i have left is that there is a way to do multiplayer on both the television and the hand held ala Wii U.

I have repeatedly said over the last year that I believe NX will be a hand held. Nobody believed me. I was even banned from one website over my opinion. I am super excited if this is true. Knowing Nintendo, there will be many surprises to come.

I most definitely want backward compatibility though. At least with 3DS titles.



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Soundwave on 26 July 2016
GhaudePhaede010 said:
Just when I thought there was no way Nintendo could not find a way to lure me back in. The only hope i have left is that there is a way to do multiplayer on both the television and the hand held ala Wii U.

I have repeatedly said over the last year that I believe NX will be a hand held. Nobody believed me. I was even banned from one website over my opinion. I am super excited if this is true. Knowing Nintendo, there will be many surprises to come.

I most definitely want backward compatibility though. At least with 3DS titles.

If it has that ARM CPU, then DS/3DS backwards compatibility (or Virtual Handheld) is probably possible. 



kitler53 on 26 July 2016
Soundwave said:
Hiku said:

Right. Why would you want to play it in docked/console mode on the go? Because that's the only situation I can think of where detachable controllers would serve a purpose. When you're at home, you could just pick up a regular controller that came with the system, which you leave at home and only use when you're at home.

I don't like the sound of the details here. A lot of questions and concerns.
Seemingly not as powerful as PS4, so if third parties will want to port their games to it immediatley becomes more questionable.
Or does it get more powerful when it's on dock mode? (GameXplain said something like that.)
What would the battery life for something like this be?
How would it be portable (fit in your pocket) with those detachable controllers?

To play multiplayer games ON the go. That's why detachable controllers make sense. 

This device is likely designed so that you WANT people to gather around it, not to be played alone like a hermit. 

That is right in line with Nintendo's core philosphy about family/friend gaming.

Also it's something that current tablets really can't do ... so it's a nice plus for Nintendo to have (simultaenous multiplayer gaming). 

umm. no.

it's how my wife and i already play our board games.



GhaudePhaede010 on 26 July 2016
Soundwave said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:
Just when I thought there was no way Nintendo could not find a way to lure me back in. The only hope i have left is that there is a way to do multiplayer on both the television and the hand held ala Wii U.

I have repeatedly said over the last year that I believe NX will be a hand held. Nobody believed me. I was even banned from one website over my opinion. I am super excited if this is true. Knowing Nintendo, there will be many surprises to come.

I most definitely want backward compatibility though. At least with 3DS titles.

If it has that ARM CPU, then DS/3DS backwards compatibility (or Virtual Handheld) is probably possible. 

That is all I need. I hope that is true and if it does, this really could be the next big thing.

 

By the way, I feel this idea was stolen from that Neo Geo X. I have one of those and I was hoping more developers and console manufacturers would follow suit.



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Soundwave on 26 July 2016
Mar1217 said:
Can't believe how many people are already buying what has been wrote in this article like if it was the truth ...

- Reggie, Kimishima already told us that they were working on a new home console. Maybe, it has some hybrid/portable fonction to it, but it definitely won't be something that's just basically a handheld console that you can hook up to your TV.

-Nvdia having a partnership with Nintendo ?! Nope. It's probably going to use an AMD chip.

- Looks like people don't remember about these NX controllers rumors not so long ago, lots of people fell into it even big ''leakers'' too.

I'm gonna trust the words from Nintendo itself to see what the NX is, until then it's all useless speculation ...

There's nothing that Nintendo has said which discredits anything from Eurogamer. 

Even Iwata's quotes regarding the hybrid stuff were taken well out of context, this is his comment from 2014:

Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated. In contrast, the number of form factors might increase. Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform. To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with various form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms. Apple has a common platform called iOS. Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. The point is, Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples. Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment.

He doesn't discount a single device, and who knows from this base NX they could make 3-4 variants too, the 3DS certainly has multiple variants.