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Pemalite said:
Zkuq said:

Yep, you're absolutely right. It should be pretty easy to set up, but it's probably not something a total noob would want to do. And I believe the SSD+HDD combo is pretty much equivalent to having an SSHD, with the exception that you get to choose the size of the SSD.

They can actually both compliment each other, SSD is going to be faster than an SSHD, SSHD will be faster than a standard Mechanical drive. You can have all 3 in a system just fine.

Just because you got an SSD... It doesn't make the SSHD pointless, they are seperate entities, it's not like the SSD will accellerate the retreival of data from a mechanical drive.

I would still go for a larger drive than only 1 Terabyte... My Steam Library is several Terabytes large now, games are getting bigger. Get a Western Digital Black 3Tb and be happy for a few years, in conjunction with a 240Gb SSD, your storage needs should be sorted.

Actually in the setup I described, it sort of will. That's the point. You can set up the computer to use an SSD as a swap area for the HDD, which is I believe functionally the same as having a single SSHD without an SSD or HDD. In that setup, you can't manually use the SSD for anything; the computer decides what it does with it. In practice, it caches the most used files on the SSD so they don't have to be fetched from the slower HDD.



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pokoko said:
Save yourself possible future problems and get a recognized and well respected PSU. It's a very important part of your system. As it directs power to everything else, you want something as dependable as possible.

Is the Corsair CX600M ATX any good? It will add about £20 pounds to the final price. Is it worth it? I can't spend more than that.  



danielrdp said:
pokoko said:
Save yourself possible future problems and get a recognized and well respected PSU. It's a very important part of your system. As it directs power to everything else, you want something as dependable as possible.

Is the Corsair CX600M ATX any good? It will add about £20 pounds to the final price. Is it worth it? I can't spend more than that.  

If you can't spend more then, yeah, it's probably worth it.  Corsair (Channel Well) is good.  Bronze is going to have lower quality parts but it's almost always going to be better than stock PSUs.



Why founders edition and not a third party high performance cooler? It will probably cost the same and will perform better. The rest looks good.

Edit: I know they arent out yet but I would wait



                  

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danielrdp said:
pokoko said:
Save yourself possible future problems and get a recognized and well respected PSU. It's a very important part of your system. As it directs power to everything else, you want something as dependable as possible.

Is the Corsair CX600M ATX any good? It will add about £20 pounds to the final price. Is it worth it? I can't spend more than that.  

This will help with any PSU questions - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html



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Zkuq said:
Pemalite said:

They can actually both compliment each other, SSD is going to be faster than an SSHD, SSHD will be faster than a standard Mechanical drive. You can have all 3 in a system just fine.

Just because you got an SSD... It doesn't make the SSHD pointless, they are seperate entities, it's not like the SSD will accellerate the retreival of data from a mechanical drive.

I would still go for a larger drive than only 1 Terabyte... My Steam Library is several Terabytes large now, games are getting bigger. Get a Western Digital Black 3Tb and be happy for a few years, in conjunction with a 240Gb SSD, your storage needs should be sorted.

Actually in the setup I described, it sort of will. That's the point. You can set up the computer to use an SSD as a swap area for the HDD, which is I believe functionally the same as having a single SSHD without an SSD or HDD. In that setup, you can't manually use the SSD for anything; the computer decides what it does with it. In practice, it caches the most used files on the SSD so they don't have to be fetched from the slower HDD.

Nope.

danielrdp said:
pokoko said:
Save yourself possible future problems and get a recognized and well respected PSU. It's a very important part of your system. As it directs power to everything else, you want something as dependable as possible.

Is the Corsair CX600M ATX any good? It will add about £20 pounds to the final price. Is it worth it? I can't spend more than that.  

Go for it.
It's actually a 552W PSU on the 12v rail, it's a good step up from that other one.

Captain_Yuri said:

Why founders edition and not a third party high performance cooler? It will probably cost the same and will perform better. The rest looks good.

Edit: I know they arent out yet but I would wait

They are available in Australia, I just assumed it was a given they would be in the USA.



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Pemalite said:
Zkuq said:

Actually in the setup I described, it sort of will. That's the point. You can set up the computer to use an SSD as a swap area for the HDD, which is I believe functionally the same as having a single SSHD without an SSD or HDD. In that setup, you can't manually use the SSD for anything; the computer decides what it does with it. In practice, it caches the most used files on the SSD so they don't have to be fetched from the slower HDD.

Nope.

Nope what? Care to enlighten me? If I said something incorrect, I'd gladly be corrected and told why it's wrong. If I did happen to spread some misinformation, I'd like to make sure I won't do it again.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Let me guess. Did Microsoft make the push that much easier? Haha

Yeap, they did indeed. 



Zkuq said:
Pemalite said:

Nope.

Nope what? Care to enlighten me? If I said something incorrect, I'd gladly be corrected and told why it's wrong. If I did happen to spread some misinformation, I'd like to make sure I won't do it again.

I know you could set up a RAID 1 setup like you said combining say a 240gb SSD with 240gb of a normal HDD it would give you a very strange pairing of disks working together with the standard drive just being a backup of the SSD but at

http://ask.adaptec.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17037/~/q-%26-a%3A-hybrid-ssd%2Fhdd-raid

They go into creating a RAID 10 setup with double those disks with the aim to get double the performance of an SSD mirrored onto a normal HDD space... that said you can't really use raid 0 over a mechanical HDD and an SSD, well... you might be able to, but it really isn't going to work I think as at the end of the day any files stored on the mechanical parts of the drive are still going to be effected by the spin up time and disk head speed to find the files on the drive phsically even if there is an SSD storing some portions of the files.

It's interesting to mess with different raid setups but in reality anything using raid 0 between SSD and HDD is going to be a strange combo.

That said, as for the SSD for OS/Programs and Mechanical HDD for media not making the media seeking work faster as permalite said, that isn't entirely true, While obviously seeking out the start of the Avi file to play on the mechanical HDD will still take the same lenght of time, having the media playing program on the SSD will allow windows to get that open and ready to receive the file far faster with a OS SSD than without. So while in a perfect world SSD's everywhere would be great for a standard user SSD's on the primary drive will do wonders for opening programs to assist a mechanical media drive.

As for an hybrid SSHD for media, again... only so much can phsically fit on the Flash storage point of that type of drive which the drive will determine based on usage of those files, if you have 500gb of movies on an SSHD it isn't going to  put 10mb of the start of each file into that SSD portion of the drive because you will not have used any of the files before wanting to watch them, they just don't have that flexibility or awareness to know you are going to be sending requests to watch individual files at a point, they just work on file usage as the drive works inside the PC.

 

amg... wall of text, for a noob user avoid RAIDs lol, I don't mean to use the term noob here in a bad way towards anyone, I more am substituting what I would normally say as beginner user with the term used byt the OP, don't mean to offend!



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