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Still running a 1080p TV? Then you should forget about buying Xbox Scorpio.
That’s the message from Xbox boss Phil Spencer. He was asked by Eurogamer about the thinking behind announcing the new Xbox One S only to an hour later reveal a brand new machine, Xbox Scorpio.
“You should buy [the Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you,” Spencer said after asking the reviewer what TV he had – in this instance a 1080p set. “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see."
“Clearly, you can buy Scorpio, and if and when you decide you want to buy a 4K television to take advantage of the increased performance, obviously the console will be ready for you. For us in the industry, it's easy to think that most power is always the thing that wins. If you look at last gen, what won? The Wii won. The Wii sold more than we did on Xbox 360 and the PS3, and it wasn't the most powerful console out there. Price is critically important. Wii was a good price and it had a great experience.
“Scorpio is for the person who's got a 4K television, who's really focused on 4K gaming. It's going to be a premium price over what we're selling this one for, and both of them will exist in the market at the same time. Scorpio is for your 4K gamer. And that's what we designed it for.”
It was speculated yesterday that while it seems Xbox Scorpio will have a quite significant power advantage over PS4 Neo, that advantage will come at a cost – that literally being the cost, which could be some $100 more than Sony’s new machine.

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21:9 1440p > 4k
Also kinda on topic I guess but anyone else on these forums have a 4k TV as well??



Such a retarded thing to say. This console is DOA anyways. It has too many barriers to entry.



Hmmm so the Scorpio doesn't add better lighting, textures or draw distance?

If that's the case it would mean developers wouldn't need to make any changes to their software as it would basically just be Xbox One games running at a higher resolution with no other alterations.

I don't believe this to be the case though, I think Phil Spencer is saying you won't notice a major difference, however I believe there will still be differences other than just resolution.

Not to mention 720p XBO games, you'll notice the advantage of scorpio on a 1080p tv then.

 

It's kind of a silly comment by Phil Spencer tbh, I think he's just saying it's designed for people with a 4k display but I'm sure the statement "it won't do anything for you" is wrong.



It's pointless to discuss what's gonna be more powerful at this point. The Neo will be outperformed by the Scorpio and the Scorpio will be outperformed by the Neo S and the Neo S will be outperformed by the Scorpio Plus and so on



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I think hes just trying to sell the Xbox one S because the scorpio will deffenitely see improvements, most xbox one games run in 720p or 900p, well 4K is still going to be an improvement on a 1080P TV lol.

Not to mention I am sure textures, frame rate and additional effects/graphical options are inevitable. But its too far away to be discussing in depth scorpio anyway




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What a strange statement to make almost 18months before the system will appear, also ... is the only difference all that power makes going from 720p/900p/1080p > 4k like... won't do a single thing for those games with choppy framerates on the X1? how is that even possible, if the games are running under the Scorpio profile surely they would have full access to the power of the system, why would it not allow a game running at 1080p increase from a shuddery sub 30fps to a locked 30fps.

I'm confuse



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kowenicki said:
LurkerJ said:

It's pointless to discuss what's gonna be more powerful at this point. The Neo will be outperformed by the Scorpio and the Scorpio will be outperformed by the Neo S and the Neo S will be outperformed by the Scorpio Plus and so on

yep.  the console race and fixed cycles is now officially over.

And good riddance, multiple models running compatible OS, Infrastructures and Software libraries is the way forward, giving the consumer more choice.

I'm not sure why so many on this site are so upset about the whole neo/scorpio situation. It's a good thing imo. More Devices, Faster Progression, More Choice.



lol that's the first thing I thought as everyone kept getting excited about these consoles claiming they're aiming for 4k... just how many people have a large 4k TV but are still playing consoles mainly? Those haven't become very affordable just yet.



Ganoncrotch said:
What a strange statement to make almost 18months before the system will appear, also ... is the only difference all that power makes going from 720p/900p/1080p > 4k like... won't do a single thing for those games with choppy framerates on the X1? how is that even possible, if the games are running under the Scorpio profile surely they would have full access to the power of the system, why would it not allow a game running at 1080p increase from a shuddery sub 30fps to a locked 30fps.

I'm confuse

Maybe someone cornered Phil Spencer at the urinals when he said this, It's definitely not a correct statement.