Kerotan said:
The main point is it's heavily bundled at UK retailers now so what's your point? |
No Forza 6 isn't heavily bundled in the UK or else software for it would be close to X1 numbers in the UK.
Proud to be a Californian.
Kerotan said:
The main point is it's heavily bundled at UK retailers now so what's your point? |
No Forza 6 isn't heavily bundled in the UK or else software for it would be close to X1 numbers in the UK.
Proud to be a Californian.
darkenergy said:
No Halo 5 still sold better with digital.
No that is false, I don't recall any reviewer using scores up to 4, they go up to 5, 10, or 100. |
I hope you're not basing that off of VGC numbers... If not, I expect you to have your sources ready for the Halo 5, Spatoon, and digital rate numbers.
In response to your second reply, this review indeed scored out of 4 points. I suggest that you verify things first before jumping to conclusions.
darkenergy said: No Forza 6 isn't heavily bundled in the UK or else software for it would be close to X1 numbers in the UK. |
I looked it up and I found this article and another one on the same site. And then, looking at Amazon, it seems that the LE bundle is still widely available at £269.00. Comparing that pricetag to those on other SKUs, it seems to be a good deal. Like I mentioned already, it would behoove you to verify things first before making such declarative statements.
darkenergy said:
No Forza 6 isn't heavily bundled in the UK or else software for it would be close to X1 numbers in the UK. |
No forza is and always has been heavily bundled. In the UK for the past few months it's been a very common bundle in brick and mortar stores.
Azzanation said:
Wow dude are you really going to compare the two? FF has been around since the 80s Halo has only been on the market since 2000s. Halo is as big as the entire FF series in terms of gross, venue and popularity. Let’s not forget Halo is exclusive to only 1 console and occasionally PC. If Halo released on all platforms that 110m compared to 70m will be a lot closer and that’s not bad for a game series that only released 16 years ago.
Halo is almost double the worth of Uncharted, that’s a pretty big gap. Seems like you refuse to accept this fact. *when you boost the numbers with a Hardware that cost 500US$ and also give Shipped numbers to boost even futher, isn't something so impressive.* How many games come out that gross $500m in its first week? GTA, Cod and maybe a Mario... What else? Those games are all juggernauts in there genres oh i also forgot one, Halo |
With shipped Numbers ?, almost every big game because the Bundle alone usually cost 5-7 Units of the game. and as i said Halo 1 and 2 were on PC, the 110 Millions of Units sold for Final Fantasy was on 2014 where the only main tittle avaliable on PC was FFXIII.
65 Millions to 110 Millions is a big difference.
And back with the 500 Millions in Revenue this means over 8.5 Millions of units sold full price at retail even if the game had a lot of legendary edition it would not be less than 8 Millions units sold first week you need to boost it with Hardware, Compare Software with Software Halo 5 sold 2+ Millions at Retail First Week lets say 5% is of Legendary Edition this is over 130+ Millions of US$ First week (with the Microtransactions and other related items it could have been 140+ Millions), GTA V Sold more than a dozen of Millions day 1 and even so it did over 1 Billion in Revenue in the first week.
It is unfair to use Bundle's revenue together with the Hardware's revenue just to make the numbers go up.
darkenergy said:
No Halo 5 still sold better with digital.
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Source?
Aura7541 said:
I hope you're not basing that off of VGC numbers... If not, I expect you to have your sources ready for the Halo 5, Spatoon, and digital rate numbers.
I looked it up and I found this article and another one on the same site. And then, looking at Amazon, it seems that the LE bundle is still widely available at £269.00. Comparing that pricetag to those on other SKUs, it seems to be a good deal. Like I mentioned already, it would behoove you to verify things first before making such declarative statements. |
For your first reply Microsoft sometimes have their digital games on sale and sometimes Halo 5 is on it as well so I wouldn't be surprise if alot of people who got it.
I never said that they stopped the limited edition I know that there are plenty out there.
Proud to be a Californian.
Swordmasterman said:
With shipped Numbers ?, almost every big game because the Bundle alone usually cost 5-7 Units of the game. and as i said Halo 1 and 2 were on PC, the 110 Millions of Units sold for Final Fantasy was on 2014 where the only main tittle avaliable on PC was FFXIII. 65 Millions to 110 Millions is a big difference. And back with the 500 Millions in Revenue this means over 8.5 Millions of units sold full price at retail even if the game had a lot of legendary edition it would not be less than 8 Millions units sold first week you need to boost it with Hardware, Compare Software with Software Halo 5 sold 2+ Millions at Retail First Week lets say 5% is of Legendary Edition this is over 130+ Millions of US$ First week (with the Microtransactions and other related items it could have been 140+ Millions), GTA V Sold more than a dozen of Millions day 1 and even so it did over 1 Billion in Revenue in the first week. It is unfair to use Bundle's revenue together with the Hardware's revenue just to make the numbers go up. |
I am not sure where you’re trying to go with this. Halo 5 is still regarded as a box office success, it brought in half a billion dollars in its first week regardless if it bundled or not because in Halo 5's case, it was the most expensive bundle on the market which means that gamers brought that bundle because they wanted Halo 5. Unlike the UC Collection for PS4 which was the cheapest bundle on the market, which means that gamers would have flocked to it even if they didn’t want Uncharted because it’s the cheapest option. Halo + Hardware + Digital + Merchandise clearly shows that Halo 5 is an amazing success even if you disagree. Numbers don’t lie and in this case, $500m isn’t something many games can do. Will see if FF15 makes that much in its first week. Ever way, if it’s got Halo 5’s name on it, it should be counted because it’s all part of it. And just FYI, Halo 5 is most likely sitting on 4m sales (Not including Digital) and it has already made its money back. The back will probably die on 6m sales by the time Halo 6 releases. Doesn’t sound like a bad number to me, after all Uncharted games sell 6m per entry.
Ffs does it really matter whether Forza is heavily bundled or not? It doesn't sell much either way. If it didn't chart in the only country it sells in then they might as well not manufacture any copies as there'd be no shops to ship them to
Azzanation said:
I am not sure where you’re trying to go with this. Halo 5 is still regarded as a box office success, it brought in half a billion dollars in its first week regardless if it bundled or not because in Halo 5's case, it was the most expensive bundle on the market which means that gamers brought that bundle because they wanted Halo 5. Unlike the UC Collection for PS4 which was the cheapest bundle on the market, which means that gamers would have flocked to it even if they didn’t want Uncharted because it’s the cheapest option. Halo + Hardware + Digital + Merchandise clearly shows that Halo 5 is an amazing success even if you disagree. Numbers don’t lie and in this case, $500m isn’t something many games can do. Will see if FF15 makes that much in its first week. Ever way, if it’s got Halo 5’s name on it, it should be counted because it’s all part of it. And just FYI, Halo 5 is most likely sitting on 4m sales (Not including Digital) and it has already made its money back. The back will probably die on 6m sales by the time Halo 6 releases. Doesn’t sound like a bad number to me, after all Uncharted games sell 6m per entry. |
Xbox One's best selling bundle was Gears of War 4, you don't understand that those numbers are ? they are Shipped numbers from Launch so the consumers don't purchased it, otherwise they would need 1.5+ Millions of software sales + 750-800 Thousands of Bundles sold First week, Xbox One only sold 330 Thousands on USA that month and USA count for more than Half of Xbox One's Hardware.
Shipped means they just sent to the stores Halo in Software sales don't made more than 140 Millions First Week which Final Fantasy XV can break on Japan only if sell like a Regular Final Fantasy game.
Again we were comparing Halo and Final Fantasy because you said that Halo had other midias, but those other midias are just Advertisement they were not a success on other midias like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh.
Final Fantasy Advent Children's Movie was released on DVD and UMD it sold 4+ Millions of units Worldwide before the release of the Final Version, in Japan nearly the majority of the Initial sales was of the Legendary Edition, the Blu-ray version also wasn't cheap in Japan.
From the 4 Millions 2+ Millions sold outside of Japan.
Neither Halo or Uncharted are famous outside of gaming.
Swordmasterman said:
Xbox One's best selling bundle was Gears of War 4, you don't understand that those numbers are ? they are Shipped numbers from Launch so the consumers don't purchased it, otherwise they would need 1.5+ Millions of software sales + 750-800 Thousands of Bundles sold First week, Xbox One only sold 330 Thousands on USA that month and USA count for more than Half of Xbox One's Hardware.
Shipped means they just sent to the stores Halo in Software sales don't made more than 140 Millions First Week which Final Fantasy XV can break on Japan only if sell like a Regular Final Fantasy game. Again we were comparing Halo and Final Fantasy because you said that Halo had other midias, but those other midias are just Advertisement they were not a success on other midias like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh. Final Fantasy Advent Children's Movie was released on DVD and UMD it sold 4+ Millions of units Worldwide before the release of the Final Version, in Japan nearly the majority of the Initial sales was of the Legendary Edition, the Blu-ray version also wasn't cheap in Japan. From the 4 Millions 2+ Millions sold outside of Japan.
Neither Halo or Uncharted are famous outside of gaming. |
Dude shipped or not doesn’t mean anything, it still is money in the makers pocket and it will continue to make money as its life nears an end.
Halo is big outside of gaming, you should start reading up more about it. It has some of the best-selling novels in book stores, many none gamers will know what Halo is because Halo is more than just a game. Seems like you refuse to accept this. Final Fantasy is also a big IP and one of the biggest JRPG games going around just like Halo is for the FPS market. I like FF and i have all of them on Steam because it’s one of the biggest brands going around just like I own every Halo game (Including Spartan Strikes PC Exclusive) because it’s one of the best FPS going around. There both house hold names but to say FF is bigger than Halo is debatable. FF only advantage is that it’s multiplatform where Halo isn’t.