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Rumor: New PS4k/PS4.5 leak via NeoGAF - GPU twice as powerful, dev kits already in developers' hands, $399-$499

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The insider has added to his original post. I have to say though, it's too late, fella, your wording has done some damage:

Also the word "Sacrifices" is being blown out of proportion. There are sacrifices made when making a console version of a game as compared to a PC game or when making an XB1 game as compared to a PS4 game. Don't expect PS4 games to all of a sudden become shit just expect them to run better on PS4K. I would expect a game that is really pushing the graphics envelope to run at 1080p 60fps on PS4K while the same game might run at 900p 60/30fps on PS4. Just the way I took it.



 

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Here is a better rumour:

PS4 Slim, coming this August, for $299 USD. It will have HDMI 2.0 support, and support Netflix and Sony 4K streaming services. It will have the same Bluray player as the current PS4, and play the same games as the current PS4.



SvennoJ said:

This!

Minimum requirements for PSVR are less than half that of OR (1920x1080x60 vs 2560x1200x90) plus John Carmack stated consoles can get get twice the efficiency out of the hardware. You also need a lot less fidelity in VR games, they will be intense enough already and since the same resolution is spread over a much wider fov lod settings and draw distance can be much lower. So I'm really not worried about PSVR not being able to deliver.

It's funny though, at end of last gen the graphics were good enough and we didn't really need new consoles. Today Uncharted 4 is apparently already outdated and it's time for an upgrade. Where does all this insecurity come from.

I totally agree.

Your last point made me think, there's always been this divide, these are "gaming" machines, but there's always this push for realism, where somehow graphics dictate how good a game is. A good "GAME" is hopefully fun, you have a good time while playing it.

 This is the Dungeons and Dragons I grew up playing... lol 

 

If the ps4 had to run just cell shaded basic graphics to run psvr well, I'd be happy, but games like RIGS prove the ps4 is QUITE capable of running modern 3d graphics while tracking head movements , 2 motion controllers, AND produce a second video image, plus handle 3 other controllers. 

 Honestly I think the ps4 has a ton if life left in it, 2 years easy if Nintendo's new console doesn't overpower it, and if Microsoft doesn't release another console the life could be even longer.

4K is definitely the future but there's not enough 4K TV sets out there yet, and 4K capable PC gaming rigs cost around $2000, unless AMD is willing to drop a custom generational leap processor in Sony's lap on the cheap, a REAL 4K gaming console is NOT releasing BEFORE October of 2016. 

The fact big name media outlets are running with a ridiculous rumor is sad.



I maybe leave my PC and move to console if this happend. Hate all the weak console and 30 fps.



ZahaDoom said:
SvennoJ said:

This!

Minimum requirements for PSVR are less than half that of OR (1920x1080x60 vs 2560x1200x90) plus John Carmack stated consoles can get get twice the efficiency out of the hardware. You also need a lot less fidelity in VR games, they will be intense enough already and since the same resolution is spread over a much wider fov lod settings and draw distance can be much lower. So I'm really not worried about PSVR not being able to deliver.

It's funny though, at end of last gen the graphics were good enough and we didn't really need new consoles. Today Uncharted 4 is apparently already outdated and it's time for an upgrade. Where does all this insecurity come from.

I totally agree.

You last point made me think, there's always been this divide, these are "gaming" machines, but there's always this push for realism, where somehow graphics dictate how good a game is. A good "GAME" is hopefully fun, you have a good time while playing it.

 This is the Dungeons and Dragons I grew up playing... lol 

 

If the ps4 had to run just cell shaded basic graphics to run psvr well, I'd be happy, but games like RIGS prove the ps4 is QUITE capable of running modern 3d graphics while tracking head movements , 2 motion controllers, AND produce a second video image, plus handle 3 other controllers. 

 Honestly I think the ps4 has a ton if life left in it, 2 years easy if Nintendo's new console doesn't overpower it, and if Microsoft doesn't release another console the life could be even longer.

4K is definitely the future but there's not enough 4K TV sets out there yet, and 4K capable PC gaming rigs cost around $2000, unless AMD is willing to drop a custom generational leap processor in Sony's lap on the cheap, a REAL 4K gaming console is NOT releasing BEFORE October of 2017. 

The fact big name media outlets are running with a ridiculous rumor is sad.

Agree with all of this. 



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Sorry put 2017 instead of 2016, I edited it but you responded already, even buy Oct 2017 I'm probably still correct.



ZahaDoom said:
DM235 said:
This rumor is totally unbelievable. There is no good that can come from it. All this would do is annoy their 40 million or so customers. The most bogus part of that rumour is that they would upgrade the CPU, when most games are GPU limited (so why would they waste time / money on something that would provide little value?).

What is most likely coming this year is a PS4 slim, which will support HDMI 2.0 and 4K TVs. This would let them support their own 4K streaming service, as well as 4K Netflix. Games will not be affected.

If Sony waits until next year, then it is quite possible that they would include a 4K Bluray player, but I think that is a feature reserved for the PS5, which is due in 2018 / 2019.

 What good that come from this bs rumor, no good for sony but for the competition it's great, this rumor hurts sonys ps4 sales and psvr sales as people are now scared to pull the trigger, who could possibly be behind such underhanded move? Lol

 

I'd love to see NYT and Forbes stock portfolio when they spread bull like this it should be required to know how vested they are in these companies. Literally Forbes used the other two rumors article and tried to substantiate their article saying it must be true because others published it, journalism has become an utter joke.

 A good 80% of the responses to this thread are troll responses.  Anyone who thinks consoles should be on a 3 year refresh cycle doesn't understand the console business.

 All these bs posts that the ps4 vr can't keep up and needs more power to compete with occulus, have any of you actually tried the psvr? Firstly it doesn't need to complete with occulus, second the psvr works quite fine with the current ps4.

 All these crying posts about how this generation of console has underwhelmed, guys wipe the sleep from your eyes, go back a generation and tell me this gen isn't better.

 Mark my words, ps4k will have no improvement to gaming besides 4k video media output, 4k bluray support...

People will not fall for those rumors, we are on April 1Th, the Only people that want  Consoles to be Upgradable, so is better became a PC Gamer, we are 2  Months from E3, we will need to wait until then,  of course it affect the Sales in a Negative way, because IGN, and other Massive Video Game Chanels, are reporting it, but those rumors will vanish soon.



ZahaDoom said:
Sorry put 2017 instead of 2016, I edited it but you responded already, even buy Oct 2017 I'm probably still correct.

Even by 2020, you would still be correct.



Exactly what other guy said, 4k gaming will not be fully ready for a while. Especially on consoles. Im thinking next gen to be 2160p or 1440p ish.



krippaz said:
I maybe leave my PC and move to console if this happend. Hate all the weak console and 30 fps.

Really? if this becomes a trend in consoles I would do the opposite, it breaks one of the key benefits of the console model around fixed hardware raising dev costs and consumer costs. I currently game on both consoles and PC's but if this happens across the board I think it would be the death blow to consoles and better to just ditch consoles all together.