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When all's said and done, Xbox has done its penance

Done with the usual suspects? Nohing new, an update for racer XYZ, mediocre spaceshooter ABC, and that not too well selling timed exclusive. That is all what it needs for MS to do their penance? After the major fuckup pre launch, the overall design of the console, having the weaker hardware resulting in inferior mulitplatt?

And there are encouraging signs that, in 2016, it will do just that.

Biased? Author should have cut it short and simply write "i'm a hardcore xbox cowboy and i don't like japanese crap cars, yeehaw!".

 

Turns out that the good favour has lasted another 12 months, and the promises are starting to pile up. 2016's party is going to have to be pretty special.

Sure, but MS has encouraging signs... with one exclusive in the first month.

 

SubiyaCryolite said:
Wow, you guys see a lot of bias and I see none. Do you want EG to fall on their knees and worship their lord and savior Kaz Hirai? Look at Celadors post. Eurogamer isn't dense, they know good games when they see them but they still have valid criticisms.

Lets not kid ourselves, the PS4 hasn't yet hit its stride,. We haven't reached PS1, PS2 and PS3 levels of "OMG look at all these f@#kin exclusives" yet. We are getting there but I still the system as an infant in that regard.

Microsoft may have blown its load early but at least all their top tier IPs have had a pure 8th gen release. And unlike most PS exclusives you dont have to worry about them reviewing well.

Pfhaha, good one!



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celador said:

Thankfully, the relevance of these people is dwindling at a steady rate. Their bias is clear to see.

Will be interesting to see what they say next year. After another 12 months of PS4 having more new IPs, more exclusives, more Japanese games, more indies and the launch of potentially the first step in the revolution of videogames with VR. I'm sure the X1 will still magically have a better year.

Eurogamer's top 10 game of the year list is as follows:

1. Bloodborne (PS4 exclusive)
2. Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain (PS4, best console version)
3. Splatoon
4. Rocket League (PS4 console exclusive)
5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (PS4, best console version)
6. Her Story
7. Invisible, Inc. (coming soon to PS4)
8. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
9. Everybody's Gone to the Rapture (PS4 exclusive)
10. Life is Strange (PS4, best console version)

6 PS4 games, 3 exclusive. 
3 Xbox games, 0 exclusives.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=190863266&postcount=3

Best Console version? Really?  So theres technically 2 ps4 exclusives and 6 ps4 games on the list. Though I don't know what this has to do with that writers opinion on the consoles situation throughout the year as a whole. I 





SubiyaCryolite said:
Wow, you guys see a lot of bias and I see none. Do you want EG to fall on their knees and worship their lord and savior Kaz Hirai? Look at Celadors post. Eurogamer isn't dense, they know good games when they see them but they still have valid criticisms.

Lets not kid ourselves, the PS4 hasn't yet hit its stride,. We haven't reached PS1, PS2 and PS3 levels of "OMG look at all these f@#kin exclusives" yet. We are getting there but I still the system as an infant in that regard.

Microsoft may have blown its load early but at least all their top tier IPs have had a pure 8th gen release. And unlike most PS exclusives you dont have to worry about them reviewing well.

Microsoft's major IP's have got released but one of them was just a remake and not a new game. As for reviewing well? Sony's major IP's Gran Turismo, God Of War & Uncharted all review well, just like Halo, Gears Of War and Forza do. Besides are reviews everything, or does personal opinion still matter?

The Xbox article treated the lack of exclusives for most of the year as perfectly fine, while the PS article criticised its lineup because the first exclusive of the year The Order was a dud, and minimalized the importance of Bloodborne and Until Dawn because they were "hardcore and not mainstream".

Gears remake was treated as a great reason to own an Xbox, but God Of War III & Uncharted NDC were either not mentioned or their importance understated, even though Uncharted NDC includes 3 games instead of one and has gameplay improvements in one of the games it includes.

Then with little else to criticise they had to say that Horizon's name was lame, I mean that is a really dumb statement and not even true. Then they say No Man's Sky would sell well if nothing else, prejudging it with little to back it up and being negative without reason. In the Xbox article they are praising Microsoft's 2016 lineup again prejudging it and being too optimistic about it, as many of them could be duds.

They also state the obvious hardware difference not being anything to care about even though in their own DF articles the differences in various multiplatform games being major.

Also when you write such articles, good journalism demands the criticisms or praise to be more subtle, and not doing so in every statement of the article but only where their are points raised, which aren't true for either of these articles.

 

EDIT: Also they say that The Last Guardian's release is ambiguous even though it has been said that it will come in 2016, the author didn't even research properly. You can't make statements like that when their is evidence of the opposite being true.



Well I had Bloodborne and The Order (I enjoyed it) for first half of 2015 and Until Dawn, Dragon Quest Heros, and Tales of Zesteria for the send half exclusive wise (there were more but this os what I bought.

X1 gave me nothing first half and Gears Ultimate, RotTR, Rare Replay, and Halo 5 (passed on their one other retail exclusive Forza 6).

Both have done me well so articles like this make me roll my eyes with how painfully hard they try to play down PS4.



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I don't have any of the consoles, but based on catalogue and a slightly better performance on PS4, I'd say PS4 has won this year by miles. But to each his own, obviously.



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It's kind of funny, really.

It's like you have a kid who has screwed up a lot and a kid who has been conscientious right from the start. The screw-up starts doing better and gets overly praised for it, while the good kid gets a disapproving frown if it pulls a B+ on a test.

Right now, Microsoft's best move is that they started out so badly. They can literally do anything and they get a doggy treat and a pat on the head.

That's fine, though. The bad part here is that major publications seem to be racing to see who can pull down the PS4. They aren't judging with the same criteria and they appear to be picking at any loose threads to see if they can find hidden faults. Most of the compliments are grudging and usually followed with a shallow criticism.

What is the agenda here? Why are they going out of their way to be less than fair? It's an interesting question.

Also, I've got to say, I question the intelligence of any writer who cannot see the difference between a major publisher like Square whoring out a multi-platform series as a timed exclusive and a new, independent Japanese studio forming a one-game partnership with Sony.

Another annoyance is how, for some reason, exclusives only count if you release them during the holiday season--a period that is already crammed with blockbusters. If there is ever a time when you should not release most exclusives, it's during the holiday season. Just ask Tomb Raider.



Interesting read



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bananaking21 said:

As for the future, Paris Games Week and the PlayStation Experience event in San Francisco provided an interesting glimpse of what's to come. On the plus side, Rez Infinite may provide the newly christened PlayStation VR with its first must-buy, and it's hard to begrudge a sequel to Ni no Kuni. On the negative, aside from wonderful curios like Wild, there's little that seems genuinely new.

Because fuck Detriot: Become Human and GTS, one which is a new IP. and fuck robinson the journey, matterfall and boundles. and who cares for the first gameplay demo of gravity rush 2 anyways? and that dreams.. sigh.. nothing new there. ohh driveclub bikes? doesnt count. 


What's Shawn Layden dreaming of this Christmas? He knows that there are real prospects in the future: Horizon: Zero Dawn looks great, although it desperately needs a more memorable name, while No Man's Sky almost cannot fail by this point - it cannot fail to sell, at any rate. Nier promises more goodwill, along with Shenmue and The Last Guardian - and then there's Hideo Kojima, whose announcement of PlayStation exclusivity received exactly the kind of warm reception that failed to materialise for Microsoft's deal with Rise of the Tomb Raider. A sentimental reaction, considering Kojima's history with PlayStation, but perhaps not a fair one.

 

they literally couldnt find anything negative to say about Horizon so they just took a cheap shot at its name? lol. 

And my god... thats just an ill informed thing to say. its not at all the same situation. Sony is helping Kojima Bring his game to live. MS was just denying the game releasing on other platforms. 

 

Some more great hypocrisy. this is from the XB1 article. "it's available at keen prices in attractive bundles and it has a rapidly expanding library of handsome, well-optimised games". yet they use that as a negative point in the PS4 article. "but as Christmas came around, the third parties were left bearing the brunt. Star Wars and Call of Duty are Sony's big hopes for the end of 2015 - although presumably the real hope is that this insane momentum driving sales simply keeps going." Those CoD and SW bundles at 350$ (and at times 299$ for the SW bundle) apperantly dont qualify as "being available at keen prices in attractive bundles"

 

then they go and say PS+ games = bad. XBLG games = Good!

You had the free Games With Gold, which caught and then arguably surpassed PlayStation Plus as a subscription sweetener with a vastly improved line-up where intriguing indies like Massive Chalice rubbed shoulders with well-timed chances to catch up with recent Metal Gear Solid and Tomb Raider games.

 

PlayStation Plus might be a potential problem. Sure, free games have provided an enormous incentive for audiences to give Sony a monthly payment, but they've also neatly disincentivised spending money elsewhere on the store. Why take a punt on a game when you'll only kick yourself if you get it for free a month later? How much longer is the indie goodwill going to survive in this climate?

 

Massive Chalice is the best line up ever. Rocket League? fuck that game. its fantastic how much shit they managed to spin.

 

then they go on and say this.

"You had tempting downloads like the beautiful indie platformer Ori and the Blind Forest, or the clever film tie-in Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious"

Driveclub bikes doesnt count apperantly, neither does Bloodborne the old hunters. they use Forza's DLC to justify XB1's barren first half of the year. but dont use old hunters or driveclub bikes for PS4. lol.

 

i mean damn, im sure i could actually find more fanboyism in those two articles, but this is more than enough. i didnt even read the two articles fully. 

That is fucking cringe worthy.

Who wrote those articles? Crap Gamer?





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Ruler said:
Another one of these Pro Xbox articles, ignoring the fact that the Xbox One had no exclusives up until the holiday season. And ignoring the countless stream of games not avaible on Xbox from Japan and independent devolopers. Bloodborne is the highest rated exclusive on Metacritic.

They also dont make another article for Nintendo like they dont exist

Its not just about Japan and a Niche game. Its clear as day which company is trying and which one is sitting in the high chair watching.