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Ruler on 25 November 2015
greenmedic88 said:

I don't think Tecmo was planning on porting the game due to being a tiny niche product, but announcing this as such isn't going to win them any fans; not from the parties they are trying to appease (they still make the product, it's just not available in more markets) and certainly not from that tiny niche of gamers who would have bought this game.

It's not going to stop anyone from buying the game anyway, it just means having to pay more and go through the trouble of importing it making it a bit of a lose/lose situation for everyone.

The business reality is that there simply wasn't enough demand to justify a port. So... anyone who wanted this should have complained louder then rather than now.

 it wasnt even nieche on the Xbox, what makes you think it would be nieche coming to PlayStation where the audience is more pro nieche? 



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greenmedic88 on 25 November 2015
Ruler said:
greenmedic88 said:

I don't think Tecmo was planning on porting the game due to being a tiny niche product, but announcing this as such isn't going to win them any fans; not from the parties they are trying to appease (they still make the product, it's just not available in more markets) and certainly not from that tiny niche of gamers who would have bought this game.

It's not going to stop anyone from buying the game anyway, it just means having to pay more and go through the trouble of importing it making it a bit of a lose/lose situation for everyone.

The business reality is that there simply wasn't enough demand to justify a port. So... anyone who wanted this should have complained louder then rather than now.

 it wasnt even nieche on the Xbox, what makes you think it would be nieche coming to PlayStation where the audience is more pro nieche? 

I don't feel like looking up the numbers, but what were they for DOAX and DOAX2? I don't recall DOAX2 being published on the PS3 and if not, there's not much of a gauge for interest in DOAX3 on the PS4. 

I suppose there's always digital if KT was concerned about producing unsold NA market inventory, but again, what this really seems to boil down to is the number of units they projected they could sell relative to the fan response for a NA market release simply didn't merit one. 

 

Okay; no need to bother. DOAX2 sold a whopping 250k units. That is the very definition of small niche. 



Lawlight on 25 November 2015

Looks like Play-Asia pissed off a lot of SJWs with their tweet about not bowing to SJW-nonsense.



teigaga on 25 November 2015
Lawlight said:
binary solo said:
theDX said:
binary solo said:
Lawlight said:


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.

Hyperbole, thy name is Lawlight. This game isn't even close to being banned in the west. Indeed as far as I know there has been no negative media in the west about this game, so there isn't even any active opposition to the game being releeased from the peopel you like to demonise as ruining gaming. The only media there has been is the decision KT has taken not to release it allegedly because they are afraid their might be negative publicity from some people. That's given the game far more attention in western media than any official release and marketing campaign would.

The social justice concensus has already been established:

https://archive.is/Y7yjG

And yet, not a single comment from people who bothered to read this is supporting the point of view of ther article. If KT read this article and the comments they would feel encouraged to localise the game because the voice of the gamers appears to support the release of this game. The thought of negative press which has no actual influence of the commercial viability of a product has never stopped a company from pursuing a profitable venture. All the SJW ranting in the world would not negatively affect sales, therefore SJW backlash has nothing to do with the decision not to officially release in the west. Am I saying KT is lying about the reason for not localising? Yes I am. They are spinning a line and y'all are falling for it.


So, you're going to ignore all the backlash that other games have received?


Yes, its all irrelevant. These japanese devs are falling over backwards to avoid offending the west when really no one cares. That one kotaku post saying X and Y is distasteful makes no difference to the games sales or franchise future. None of it matters, it'd be like Mortal Kombat removing the violence because ofbacklash which has been over a decade strong. It hasn't happened yet because the devs have a backbone. It'd be GTA being canceled becuase it was target of conservative backlash. Not going to happen. In the internet age, people are going write things about your game, thats fine. Get over it.

This is real backlash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30328314




Lawlight on 25 November 2015
teigaga said:
Lawlight said:


So, you're going to ignore all the backlash that other games have received?


Yes, its all irrelevant. These japanese devs are falling over backwards to avoid offending the west when really no one cares. That one kotaku post saying X and Y is distasteful makes no difference to the games sales or franchise future. None of it matters, it'd be like Mortal Kombat removing the violence because ofbacklash which has been over a decade strong. It hasn't happened yet because the devs have a backbone. It'd be GTA being canceled becuase it was target of conservative backlash. Not going to happen. In the internet age, people are going write things about your game, thats fine. Get over it.

This is real backlash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30328314

Guys, we can close this thread now. Apparently no one cares and all the tweets and articles about sexism in video games don't exist. They're all figment of our imagination apparently.



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teigaga on 25 November 2015
Lawlight said:
teigaga said:


Yes, its all irrelevant. These japanese devs are falling over backwards to avoid offending the west when really no one cares. That one kotaku post saying X and Y is distasteful makes no difference to the games sales or franchise future. None of it matters, it'd be like Mortal Kombat removing the violence because ofbacklash which has been over a decade strong. It hasn't happened yet because the devs have a backbone. It'd be GTA being canceled becuase it was target of conservative backlash. Not going to happen. In the internet age, people are going write things about your game, thats fine. Get over it.

This is real backlash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30328314

Guys, we can close this thread now. Apparently no one cares and all the tweets and articles about sexism in video games don't exist. They're all figment of our imagination apparently.

Highlighted the meat of the point since you seemed to have missed it. 

Next will the same japnese devs stop releasing their games in the west because they don't like what our reviewers say about them? Essentially no one should be looking to blame freedom of speech of what is essentially just a developer lacking backbone/conviction. OR, more likely, them looking for an excuse not to localise their game. 



Ganoncrotch on 25 November 2015
SpokenTruth said:
Just going to throw it out there but have any of you ever noticed that the only people mad at SJW's are those not impacted by social injustice?


I would say this game being on sale and people enjoying it hurts about as much as the sale of vibrators and dildos. i.e. not a tiny bit, Unless they're really big, those could hurt.



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Ganoncrotch on 25 November 2015
Rafie said:
Damn I feel an uproar coming on now. Pretty soon a war will be brewing. Gamers vs feminists/white knighters.


Thing is tho I think it's a no contest fight, like those who rise up and get angry at Feminists are no longer gaming tho, they are validating peoples choices to go off and major in Social Studies at College, what they should be doing is ignoring that shit and getting on with what they enjoy, not being lured into doing something others want and arguing about it with those whos profession relies on people arguing about it.



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Ruler on 25 November 2015
greenmedic88 said:
Ruler said:

 it wasnt even nieche on the Xbox, what makes you think it would be nieche coming to PlayStation where the audience is more pro nieche? 

I don't feel like looking up the numbers, but what were they for DOAX and DOAX2? I don't recall DOAX2 being published on the PS3 and if not, there's not much of a gauge for interest in DOAX3 on the PS4. 

I suppose there's always digital if KT was concerned about producing unsold NA market inventory, but again, what this really seems to boil down to is the number of units they projected they could sell relative to the fan response for a NA market release simply didn't merit one. 

 

Okay; no need to bother. DOAX2 sold a whopping 250k units. That is the very definition of small niche. 

it sold 600k for the original Xbox you left out



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TheWPCTraveler on 25 November 2015
Lawlight said:
Looks like Play-Asia pissed off a lot of SJWs with their tweet about not bowing to SJW-nonsense.



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