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Skullwaker said:
RenCutypoison said:
Mystery Dungeon flopped hard, didn't expect that.

Except for the fact that it didn't. 

My bad i compared it to time/darkness numbers which way above the rest of the franchise.

It's indeed nice numbers.



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Kresnik said:
C'mon, you're a better poster than this.

Yeah, it opened better than the previous two games in the series. That's hardly "flopping hard." If anything, that's reversing the trend (even if only slightly).

Sure, the series is no longer in its glory days, but that's the case for many games and it's been known for a while. I'd hate to consider what other games are considered a flop if this is.



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There is almost 30k of difference between famitsu and MCC numbers of Super Mario Manufacturer lol, that´s too much.

Anyway, that´s a very good hold and a very good week for Nintendo.



DerNebel said:
I was going to ask what in the hell happened with the PS4 but then I remembered the pricecut announcement. I'm not sure I'll ever understand the logic of announcing a pricecut weeks before it takes effect, I mean the PS3s cut to $300 was announced the same day it took effect or am I misremembering this?

The $299 PS3 was the new slim model.  The press release was done August 18, 2009 with the official release of the system to be two weeks later when it was to become available in stores on September 1, 2009, in North America, Europe/ PAL territories and Asian countries and regions.  But some retailers such as Amazon.com, Best Buy and GameStop started to sell the PS3 slim one week earlier on August 25, 2009 in North America.

edit: you're right, the existing 80GB PS3 model was also reduced on the same day as the press release (August 18, 2009)



It looks like ps4 will be big.



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Skullwaker said:
Kresnik said:
C'mon, you're a better poster than this.

Yeah, it opened better than the previous two games in the series. That's hardly "flopping hard." If anything, that's reversing the trend (even if only slightly).

Sure, the series is no longer in its glory days, but that's the case for many games and it's been known for a while. I'd hate to consider what other games are considered a flop if this is.


in terms of fw though,is at its normal days,if you look it carefully!We're able to say that the spetacular and great games EXPLORERS OF TIME/DARKNESS perfomance was an anomaly(maybe only for the fw,because if we sum up red/blue rescue team LTD sales we get the same total with explorers darkness/time)...

What we should care about is the LTD,if Pokemon super mystery dungeon doesn't end with 700k+,then yes the series isn't in it's glory days(if you split up darkness and time  ltd you get 775K for each,blue/red rescue team are at 767k and 715k,so probably the 700k is the standard for the series,but both the aforementioned paradigms,pertain to a couple of two versions,now we have a game sequal which is a single sku,and the 400k might be the standard for them,taking into account the sister game to Pokemon explorers time/darkness,PMD OF 'SKY and gates to infinity numbers...)



Is MGSV doing well would you guys say?



Skullwaker said:
Kresnik said:
C'mon, you're a better poster than this.

Yeah, it opened better than the previous two games in the series. That's hardly "flopping hard." If anything, that's reversing the trend (even if only slightly).

Sure, the series is no longer in its glory days, but that's the case for many games and it's been known for a while. I'd hate to consider what other games are considered a flop if this is.

At the same time, you have to hold series to higher standards due to the nature of their appeal and expectations. I don't really think Mystery Dungeon flopped hard, but it definitely didn't do great.



outlawauron said:
At the same time, you have to hold series to higher standards due to the nature of their appeal and expectations. I don't really think Mystery Dungeon flopped hard, but it definitely didn't do great.

What does that mean? The Mystery Dungeon series is fairly niche, and the reason the previous games sold as well as they did was directly because of Pokemon. As the Pokemon games have declined over the years, so has the Mystery Dungeon spinoffs, so there's a direct correlation. The fact that SMD has a chance at outselling previous entries is good news in itself.

And we don't know the expectations of Nintendo since we don't have sold-through numbers yet. I'm not saying the game did great, but it certainly did not flop. I would say it performed well (in fact, that's what I said in my original post).



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Skullwaker said:
outlawauron said:
At the same time, you have to hold series to higher standards due to the nature of their appeal and expectations. I don't really think Mystery Dungeon flopped hard, but it definitely didn't do great.

What does that mean? The Mystery Dungeon series is fairly niche, and the reason the previous games sold as well as they did was directly because of Pokemon. As the Pokemon games have declined over the years, so has the Mystery Dungeon spinoffs, so there's a direct correlation. The fact that SMD has a chance at outselling previous entries is good news in itself.

And we don't know the expectations of Nintendo since we don't have sold-through numbers yet. I'm not saying the game did great, but it certainly did not flop. I would say it performed well (in fact, that's what I said in my original post).

It's not hidden meaning. Mystery Dungeon gets compared to previous games in its series. It was in response to your comment about not knowing what to call other titles if it flopped. For example, Monster Hunter 5 doing 2 million in Japan would be a gigantic flop, because you would at expect at least double that from a MH title.