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Nicklesbe said:
walsufnir said:


I just want to make fun, seriously. The wars are in full engage mode everywhere. Terms like "salty" "eat crow soon!", all this stuff when people are happy that others are angry. We are talking about games here and that is, in the end, something we do in our spare time to have fun.

Now it's happening that PS4 is winning and will continue to do so which makes people think they also "win" and have a certain attitude against other users who chose the "wrong" console for being also "wrong" by default, no matter what they say. Are there still good and bad users on both sides? Definitely! But we have to see that there is a certain inbalance in discussions on GAF and here.

Let's take the 1080p-threads as of late. These threads are full of people talking about 1080pr and all the stuff but almost no one from the "other" side is able to say "good for xbone. I am glad they get better resolution in the end". No, of course not. We see comments about how bad MS is, how desperate they are, how weak the hardware is and these posts are way more in a thread where most people don't even own the console where the game is going to be released. And I guess this side can easily cope with a post like mine ;)

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7446405

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7444784

The irony/hypocrisy here is a beaming ray of light. So beautiful.



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jlmurph2 said:
Nicklesbe said:

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7446405

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7444784

The irony/hypocrisy here is a beaming ray of light. So beautiful.

I don't think you understand what irony is.... I've stated numerous times even once in this thread that I've been wrong. Difference is I openly admit it and learn from it. Something you yourself could learn to do. It would be ironic if I was as arrogant as say, you but I'm not. Do you understand the difference? Ya see why it's not ironic? Perhaps it's because you didn't understand what I was saying..



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Nicklesbe said:
jlmurph2 said:


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7446405

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7444784

The irony/hypocrisy here is a beaming ray of light. So beautiful.

I don't think you understand what irony is.... I've stated numerous times even once in this thread that I've been wrong. Difference is I openly admit it and learn from it. Something you yourself could learn to do. It would be ironic if I was as arrogant as say, you but I'm not. Do you understand the difference? Ya see why it's not ironic? Perhaps it's because you didn't understand what I was saying..

Funny, even after given examples of your obvious hypocrisy you keep it coming. Its as if you "end up trying to twist things so that you're still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out your mistake."

Lol man, just can't make this stuff up. Even in those exact threads you never "openly admit and learn from it" after being proven wrong. 

Its so damn bright!!!!!



Nicklesbe said:
NobleTeam360 said:
The Fury said:

I don't think I ever 'guessed'. I don't really care, don't like Tomb Raider. I'm trying to point out you seem a little happy people got it wrong.

Not happy, like you I'm just pointing something out

"You have some people saying this game will end up on PS4 but have no evidence to support that claim -_____-. I just get the feeling this game will be like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse, PC version will come like 6 months later and I doubt a PS4 version will come."


In the sake of just pointing things out.. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905648 You really shouldn't get so happy and try to bash others, or as you call it gleefully "point things out" when you were way way wrong and one of the few on this site that held the belief until this news that it was never coming to ps4.

Yep, that comment was made based on current information i had, you can easily find plenty of comments I made after that one saying I think it'll come to PS4 too. Good try though.



jlmurph2 said:
Nicklesbe said:

I don't think you understand what irony is.... I've stated numerous times even once in this thread that I've been wrong. Difference is I openly admit it and learn from it. Something you yourself could learn to do. It would be ironic if I was as arrogant as say, you but I'm not. Do you understand the difference? Ya see why it's not ironic? Perhaps it's because you didn't understand what I was saying..

Funny, even after given examples of your obvious hypocrisy you keep it coming. Its as if you "end up trying to twist things so that you're still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out your mistake."

Lol man, just can't make this stuff up. Even in those exact threads you never "openly admit and learn from it" after being proven wrong. 

Its so damn bright!!!!!

Hypocrisy yet another word you misuse. It would be ironic and hypocrisy if I never admited I was wrong, if I acted like you. Scroll up fool in this thread I've litterally said "They have been mostly wrong this entire gen, and again I am talking about the hardcore fans here. I mean giving em that 10% is frankly charitable considering all the assumptions and eventual necrobumps disproving those assumptions since before the gen was even released. it wouldn't be so bad if it was handled better but it's always the same, again with the exception of a handful of people. I mean at the end of the day we are all people and fallible and wrong from time to time. Hell I've been wrong and fooled numerous times this week alone. However everyone isn't so prideful and shameless about it, admiit and learn from it."

The very post before yours I openly admitted I was wrong numerous times this week. Do you not know how to read? Thank you for proving my point with your arrogrance incorrect usage of words and complete misrepresentation of me and what I've said. So far you've been unapologetic/refusing to admit when you've been wrong, demonized me, and tried twisting the fact that I've been wrong, something I've openly admitted in this thread to try and make yourself come off as right. 

For the record http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

Me pointing out that people like you have an inability to accept facts and arrogantly deny you have ever been wrong about anything while pointing out that we are all fallible using my self as an example that we all can be wrong and that you should act better about being wrong is neither ironic, or hypocritical.



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NobleTeam360 said:
Nicklesbe said:
NobleTeam360 said:
The Fury said:

I don't think I ever 'guessed'. I don't really care, don't like Tomb Raider. I'm trying to point out you seem a little happy people got it wrong.

Not happy, like you I'm just pointing something out

"You have some people saying this game will end up on PS4 but have no evidence to support that claim -_____-. I just get the feeling this game will be like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse, PC version will come like 6 months later and I doubt a PS4 version will come."


In the sake of just pointing things out.. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905648 You really shouldn't get so happy and try to bash others, or as you call it gleefully "point things out" when you were way way wrong and one of the few on this site that held the belief until this news that it was never coming to ps4.

Yep, that comment was made based on current information i had, you can easily find plenty of comments I made after that one saying I think it'll come to PS4 too. Good try though.

Are you referring to this? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905745 If so you made it perfectly clear you always doubted it would come to ps4. Care to share one where you said you believed for sure it was coming to ps4? Because I've never seen it. As I said I can be wrong, but I've never seen it from you. Care to share? Also so you admit you were wrong then? If so don't you think it was a bit crass of you to take a jab at a small amount of people who said 6 months when your initial guess was completely wrong instead of only half way?



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Nicklesbe said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Yep, that comment was made based on current information i had, you can easily find plenty of comments I made after that one saying I think it'll come to PS4 too. Good try though.

Are you referring to this? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905745 If so you made it perfectly clear you always doubted it would come to ps4. Care to share one where you said you believed for sure it was coming to ps4? Because I've never seen it. As I said I can be wrong, but I've never seen it from you. Care to share? Also so you admit you were wrong then? If so don't you think it was a bit crass of you to take a jab at a small amount of people who said 6 months when your initial guess was completely wrong instead of only half way?

Well this thread for one http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7440648 



tiffac said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I've never known a group of gamers to twist a narrative so quickly on nearly every damn story they get wrong.

'Rise of the Tombraider is an XB1 exclusive'
'No it isn't, it's a timed exclusive.'
'Spencer has said it's an exclusive.'
'No he didn't. He swerved the question.'
'He said it was like the Dead Rising deal which proves it's an XB1 exclusive'
'It will be on the PS4 6 months after the XB1'
'LOL. It's NOT coming to the PS4. Give up and accept it.'
'Spencer said there was a time involved in the exclusivity.'
'Yes, for the PC port.'
'Why only a PC port?'
'Why are you so butt hurt? It's NOT coming to the PS4.'
'We'll see ... I'll say around 6 months.'
'I can't wait to see you eat crow.'

PS4 version announced

'I told you it was coming to the PS4'
'Yes but you said 6 months. I win.'

Your gloating has backfired. At least have the humility to accept it. What you need to ask yourself is how did we know and why were we so certain? Then read what Spencer has said without the filter.

Every side has some crow eating to do. xD

Those who said it ain't coming to the PS4 and the 6 months time line. lol!

I don't think crow is on the menu for people who predicted PS4 port would come after just 4-6 months, these people were 2/3 right after all. In the face of vehement denial of the mere possibility of a PS4 port at any time in the future, suggesting both lots of people eat crow is like saying the death penalty should apply for murder as well as petty theft.



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Nicklesbe said:
jlmurph2 said:

Funny, even after given examples of your obvious hypocrisy you keep it coming. Its as if you "end up trying to twist things so that you're still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out your mistake."

Lol man, just can't make this stuff up. Even in those exact threads you never "openly admit and learn from it" after being proven wrong. 

Its so damn bright!!!!!

Hypocrisy yet another word you misuse. It would be ironic and hypocrisy if I never admited I was wrong, if I acted like you. Scroll up fool in this thread I've litterally said "They have been mostly wrong this entire gen, and again I am talking about the hardcore fans here. I mean giving em that 10% is frankly charitable considering all the assumptions and eventual necrobumps disproving those assumptions since before the gen was even released. it wouldn't be so bad if it was handled better but it's always the same, again with the exception of a handful of people. I mean at the end of the day we are all people and fallible and wrong from time to time. Hell I've been wrong and fooled numerous times this week alone. However everyone isn't so prideful and shameless about it, admiit and learn from it."

The very post before yours I openly admitted I was wrong numerous times this week. Do you not know how to read? Thank you for proving my point with your arrogrance incorrect usage of words and complete misrepresentation of me and what I've said. So far you've been unapologetic/refusing to admit when you've been wrong, demonized me, and tried twisting the fact that I've been wrong, something I've openly admitted in this thread to try and make yourself come off as right. 

For the record http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisy http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

Me pointing out that people like you have an inability to accept facts and arrogantly deny you have ever been wrong about anything while pointing out that we are all fallible using my self as an example that we all can be wrong and that you should act better about being wrong is neither ironic, or hypocritical.


Lolwut. So you think because you brushed it to the side that makes you open minded. You didn't acknowledge anything. Where is that in the thread you were horribly wrong in demonizing me and other users? I admit when I make a mistake. You generalizing a fanbase is what makes this whole thing so silly.



NobleTeam360 said:
Nicklesbe said:

Are you referring to this? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905745 If so you made it perfectly clear you always doubted it would come to ps4. Care to share one where you said you believed for sure it was coming to ps4? Because I've never seen it. As I said I can be wrong, but I've never seen it from you. Care to share? Also so you admit you were wrong then? If so don't you think it was a bit crass of you to take a jab at a small amount of people who said 6 months when your initial guess was completely wrong instead of only half way?

Well this thread for one http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7440648 

Thank you I stand corrected. You did in fact change your mind at least 4 days ago when more confirmations came out about the exclusivity. Still begs the question why take jabs? Your initial guess was wrong yet you evovled, could those that guess around 6 months not have done the same?



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