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StuOhQ said:
JNK said:

The majority of people are casual gamers, children etc (special on wiiu). They dont care about the developer or publisher of a game. 

Did you cared about the game developers as you were like 10-14 years old? I doubt that. 

Demographic studies suggest that most of the Wii U's audience is males in their middle 20-30s.

Nintendo gamers are very discerning in terms of quality, but also supportive of developers that try new and interesting things. Mario, Link, and Samus, are characters that lure us in out of nostalgia, but aren't pre-requisites for buying a game. It's more about the perception that a lot of time, effort, and thought was put into the product we are buying. This may be the reason that many of us don't play a great deal of multiplats, even on our PS4s and XBOs. We are an audience used to being given a singular product that has been meticulously polished for one partcular console. All of my Wii U games are exclusives, and most of my PS4 games are as well. 


where did you get that info? I doubt it. Wii u is marked only towards children so im sure the majority of wii u owner will be children. 

 

Also if your 2nd paragraph would be true, games like bayo 2 wouldnt had that bad sales. Its a good game, put alot effort into. So why didnt all the wii u owner bought that? Because they are to young/not interested in those games.



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Lol Nintendo guys just don't get it. Get the third party before the gen starts and have a powerful enough console compared to the competition and the multiplats gamers will come. Around sixty to seventy percent of the HD twins user bases are multiplats gamers.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lol Nintendo guys just don't get it. Get the third party before the gen starts and have a powerful enough console compared to the competition and the multiplats gamers will come. Around sixty to seventy percent of the HD twins user bases are multiplats gamers.


You cant travel back in time so your idea wont work. 

Btw. the wii u got alot 3rd party titles at launch (and alot more announcement of games which never got released). It still failed.

The Wii U was from oct. 2012-nov.2013 the most powerfull consoel on the market. But even in this time (jan. 2013-oct.2013) the ps3 sold alot better.



JNK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lol Nintendo guys just don't get it. Get the third party before the gen starts and have a powerful enough console compared to the competition and the multiplats gamers will come. Around sixty to seventy percent of the HD twins user bases are multiplats gamers.


You cant travel back in time so your idea wont work. 

Btw. the wii u got alot 3rd party titles at launch (and alot more announcement of games which never got released). It still failed.


What you're saying is so false, I don't even know where to begin. Nintendo PROMISED third party support to get ramped up showing names of third party devs and nothing came after E3 that even resembled  that promise.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
JNK said:


You cant travel back in time so your idea wont work. 

Btw. the wii u got alot 3rd party titles at launch (and alot more announcement of games which never got released). It still failed.


What you're saying is so false, I don't even know where to begin. Nintendo PROMISED third party support to get ramped up showing names of third party devs and nothing came after E3 that even resembled  that promise.


2 batman games 

2 cods

2 assassins creed games

mass effect

need for speed

Fifa, Madden, NBA

Darksiders

Tekken

And even more, mostly launch titles. That was a very good third party support, ps4 and xbox one didnt launched with more titles. They just didnt port more games scince all these games sold ~0,1-0,3m.



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JNK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


What you're saying is so false, I don't even know where to begin. Nintendo PROMISED third party support to get ramped up showing names of third party devs and nothing came after E3 that even resembled  that promise.


2 batman games 

2 cods

2 assassins creed games

mass effect

need for speed

Fifa, Madden, NBA

Darksiders

Tekken

And even more, mostly launch titles. That was a very good third party support, ps4 and xbox one didnt launched with more titles. They just didnt port more games scince all these games sold ~0,1-0,3m.


True third party makes up 90 percent of the population of any console and gives them true choice. You just listed a barebones entry compared to the most successful consoles (which naturally had third party) outside of the Wii which was a variable or an anomaly.



JNK said:
Ka-pi96 said:
JNK said:

So please explain why splatoon will probl sell 10x as many copies lifetime as call of duty on wii u if not because of graphics and rating in general?

Maybe because Call of Duty will sell 20m+ on other consoles? People that want it will get it elsewhere. If Splatoon was multiplat like COD was then you can be sure that would sell significantly less on Wii U than it would being an exclusive too.

Killzone Shadowfall on Ps4 sold 2,23 Mio copies but advanced warfare sold 6.5 mio copies (ghost 3 mio). 

So both multiplatform cod shooter on ps4 sold more as the exclusive you cant get anywhere else.

 

On Xbox One Titanfall sold 2,6mio copies (xbox exclusive) but cod:aw as a multiplattform sold 4,4 mio copies.

 

Pretty much does disproves what you said. Splatoon doesnt sell that good because its exclusive. It might sell a bit better because its exclusive, but not that much. Check devils third sales in some month and you will see that this exclusive shooter will sell alot less then splatoon, even if both are exclusives.

 

Splatoon does sell that good because its what the wii u audience want to play. A cartoony fun looking game that can be played by kids. If splatoon would had realistic graphics you could be sure you would see similar sales as bayo2.

 

Did you watched the nintendos world championship? There was a little kid commentating as they palyed splatoon. Those kids are the main audience that do play splatoon and that does play on wii u. They will never buy a bayonetta 2, as call of duty or assassins creed game.

Quit that nonsense. I can't stretch how stupid it is to say X game is selling because of artstyle. Splatton is selling because it's awesome. if the artstyle was different but the game was pretty much the same, sales would be very similar.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
JNK said:


You cant travel back in time so your idea wont work. 

Btw. the wii u got alot 3rd party titles at launch (and alot more announcement of games which never got released). It still failed.


What you're saying is so false, I don't even know where to begin. Nintendo PROMISED third party support to get ramped up showing names of third party devs and nothing came after E3 that even resembled  that promise.

You never cease your blind hate, do you? third parties had a few games at wii u's launch and THIRD PARTIES MADE PROMISES THAT WERE BROKEN.



JNK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


What you're saying is so false, I don't even know where to begin. Nintendo PROMISED third party support to get ramped up showing names of third party devs and nothing came after E3 that even resembled  that promise.


2 batman games 

2 cods

2 assassins creed games

mass effect

need for speed

Fifa, Madden, NBA

Darksiders

Tekken

And even more, mostly launch titles. That was a very good third party support, ps4 and xbox one didnt launched with more titles. They just didnt port more games scince all these games sold ~0,1-0,3m.

Liar, they didn't port more games due to lack of professionalism. EA sabotaged all their wii u titles. the others released when the installed base was at it's lowest and still sold decently for their low efforts. sales could only get higher with continuous support and the natural installed base growth, but I guess haters are always gonna hate and ignore this.



aerilating said:

Quit that nonsense. I can't stretch how stupid it is to say X game is selling because of artstyle. Splatton is selling because it's awesome. if the artstyle was different but the game was pretty much the same, sales would be very similar.


Ahh thanks genius

Bayonetta2 (92/00 metascore) sold 600k

Splatoon (81/100 Metascore) sell >1m in 3 weeks

 

Please explaiiiiiin this nonsense?

 

Splatoon in realistic graphics and rated m would sell ALOT less. We would be probl. at 200k now.