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Let me preface by saying this is for the open minded and the truth seekers. If you want to take the blue pill just go on your way but please don't make condescending, snarky posts for the sake of respect.

If you want to take the red pill and see how far the rabbit hole goes then continue to read further.

I thought this was all silly until I did my research. I think it is very possible that the powers that be (the Illuminati, Freemasons or whatever) have been deceiving the world about the shape of the earth.

There is a lot to cover. I don't want to leave a wall of copy and paste text so I'll just leave links to all the evidence. I'll just leave you with several videos I think are worth watching.

The Biggest Lie of All 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ

Why don't engineers factor the curvature of the earth with railways?

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/VU49T5Z5YmS

Should we trust NASA when they hired Nazis and connections with a Satanist?

- NASAs occult origins https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/TPmMMXTazjF

-Fake NASA images https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/JmP2xFrcuEn

- More fake NASA images https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/GoSPLDQ6uvK

- NASA insider said they lie about everything https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/jGjk7F7E1zb

- Faking a ball earth https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/MkvmQpFjj69

Scientific experiments showing the earth is not a ball

Ball earth vs Flat earth simulation https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/2QJQsbFeeou

Seeing lighthouses many miles away should be impossible on a ball earth https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/3YCBvUYSsgQ

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/jixz9ja2DKm

Viewing objects 13 miles away https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/3PeY1yTYZem

No curvature of the earth

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/D1af3ZBsuMq

Strange flight routes in the southern hemisphere. Are they trying to hide something?

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/C1CAxepSaq6

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/Njc1Z4uRbyd

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/KdWFZYSVMUi

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/9SVsA2ATLWh

Why does the UN and USGS use a flat earth map?

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/9K7JhNncfih

How does a ship circumnavigate a flat earth?

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/eccEoc7SLDZ

Strange things about Antarctica, which in the flat earth model encircles the flat earth

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/gXXt4rTYPt1

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/LB6KmnnPbgY

Interesting interview about the flat earth (very informative)

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/hG8woJ1obSy

A Sky diver on a flat earth

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/h1PsRxsocTS

Does the earth spin?

http://aplanetruth.info/1-does-the-earth-spin/

Flat earth model

More info at A Biblical Flat Earth https://plus.google.com/communities/110948746616556574259

and (a very informative webpage) http://www.seedtheseries.com/blog/BibleEarth.html

As a Bible believer I would try to shoehorn scriptures that seems to read the earth is flat into the spherical earth model. But with all this evidence showing the earth may not be a ball... I don't know now. I'm not 100% sold the earth is flat but I certainly don't 100% believe the earth is spherical. I'm still seeking the truth as we all should be doing.

Now if the earth really is flat, this me it would be one of the biggest deceptions of all time. Probably even biggeer than the New Age and Evolution. Think about it, if you are the devil and want people to die in their sins and go to hellfire by rejecting the Lord and God Jesus Christ what better way to do this then to indoctrinate the world that they are on an insignificant ball in some insigificant place in a galaxy as opposed to a designed flat earth at the center of the universe which apparently shows God is real? Also it would make a false alien invasion much more believable. What? That's right. False alien invasion. If you don't know "aliens" and some UFOs are really just demonic entities posing as aliens from another planet. My video exposing it https://youtu.be/11La2LJnjTk Discerning Christians know that satan is going to use in some way "aliens" as a big time deception.

If the earth is really flat then satan's lies goes deep and wide. Much deeper and wider than I could imagine. Indeed the Bible reads in Revelation 12:9 .."the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the one who deceives the whole world."  

Guys, if you want the Truth repent of your sins and turn to the Lord and God Jesus Christ and you will receive the gift of the Spirit of Truth. 

Thanks for reading. Have a good day.



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I don't think it's a big deal. The Bible could go both ways. But it is interesting.

But wait for the people who will laugh at this like crazy on here!



Can't wait for The Zelder Scrolls 3: Breath of The Wild Hunt!

I can look through a telescope and see the roundness of every other object in our solar system. There is no reason to believe Earth is not the same spherical shape.

There I answered you in a non-assholery way.

Now for the direct approach.

WTF is wrong with you?



superchunk said:
I can look through a telescope and see the roundness of every other object in our solar system. There is no reason to believe Earth is not the same spherical shape.

There I answered you in a non-assholery way.

Now for the direct approach.

WTF is wrong with you?

An Illuminati-designed telescope.




That's a lot of info!  I've tried to read through most of it and I have a few points to consider.

 

OoSnap said:

Why don't engineers factor the curvature of the earth with railways?

https://plus.google.com/+JamaalWilliams4Jesus/posts/VU49T5Z5YmS

 


How long is an individual piece of track?  It has to be manufactured somewhere and shipped via truck, plane, or boat to the site.  Let's assume that one piece of track is one mile - it's probably an overestimate, but it should still be sufficient for this purpose.  If we assume that the Earth is a sphere, it's estimated to have a radius of 3959 miles (wikipedia).  The question is: in this spherical Earth model, what angle does an arc length of 1 mile subtend?  We can solve this problem with some old school circular geometry.

The circumference of a circle is given by 2*π*R, where R is the radius of the circle.  In our case, we have a circumference of 24880 miles.  A circle contains 360 degrees.  Thus there are 360 degrees per 24880 miles.  We're interested in one mile though, so we can just divide the two numbers... we get 0.0145 degrees per one mile.  Even with an overestimated track length, we obtain a very small angle.  Now find a picture of a circle and zoom in on the outside of it as much as you can.  As you get closer, the roundness should disappear and it should start looking very linear.  There's even a good chance you can't zoom in to 0.0145 degrees.  Therefore, the track can be straight even though the Earth is round.

My second thought involves the magnetic field of the Earth.  Have you ever found a magnet that only attracts (or only repels)?  We have only found magnets in pairs (every north has a south).  One of the applications of this is a compass!  The needle of a mechanical compass is typically a magnet that responds to the magnetic field of the Earth.  It points in the north direction (which is actually a magnetic south, weird, right?).  Now imagine a flat Earth.  According to the flat Earth model, the North Pole is the center of a circular plane that is surrounded by a ring of ice.  We can still have a magnetized North Pole in the center, but then what happens to the ice ring?  The ice ring needs to be the opposite polarity (a magnetic north).  But since like poles will repel each other, the ice ring should be repelling itself.  Typically, flat circular magnets are magnetized so that one flat side is north and the opposite side is south.  We then have one magnetic north for every  magnetic south and it's balanced out.  We cannot have sustained magnetic presence if we magnetize only the center and the outside ring - the ring would just repel itself.



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OoSnap said:

Let me preface by saying this is for the open minded and the truth seekers. If you want to take the blue pill just go on your way but please don't make condescending, snarky posts for the sake of respect.

If you don't want people to be condescending you might want to tone down your own condescending attitude in the first paragraph.



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superchunk said:
I can look through a telescope and see the roundness of every other object in our solar system. There is no reason to believe Earth is not the same spherical shape.

Nebula, planetary rings, some asteroids, etc. are not spherical. Besides, it's a logical fallacy to assume that the Earth must be similar to other astronomical objects, especially because there are many obvious observable differences between Earth and the "other planets." Your reasoning is, no offense, specious at best.

 

 

And now, to be an asshole, because I just can't help it: we know the Earth is spherical because we have observed it as such, even as far back as the Classical age, and because we're not coming into this discussion with the assumption that a being of pure evil is manipulating a secret world-running cabal into duping the rest of humanity into believing that the Earth is round because that...disproves the idea of God, or something?



vivster said:
OoSnap said:

Let me preface by saying this is for the open minded and the truth seekers. If you want to take the blue pill just go on your way but please don't make condescending, snarky posts for the sake of respect.

If you don't want people to be condescending you might want to tone down your own condescending attitude in the first paragraph.


Haha my thoughts exactly. If you're going to be wrong you should probably not start by insulting people too. 

We have satellites orbiting earth sending back images. We know it's spherical



noname2200 said:
superchunk said:
I can look through a telescope and see the roundness of every other object in our solar system. There is no reason to believe Earth is not the same spherical shape.

Nebula, planetary rings, some asteroids, etc. are not spherical. Besides, it's a logical fallacy to assume that the Earth must be similar to other astronomical objects, especially because there are many obvious observable differences between Earth and the "other planets." Your reasoning is, no offense, specious at best.

 

 

And now, to be an asshole, because I just can't help it: we know the Earth is spherical because we have observed it as such, even as far back as the Classical age, and because we're not coming into this discussion with the assumption that a being of pure evil is manipulating a secret world-running cabal into duping the rest of humanity into believing that the Earth is round because that...disproves the idea of God, or something?


Actually, the earth has never been observed from space. Check out the "Should we trust NASA?" of the OP. It has been proven they have doctored their photos. 

NASA admitted themselves that their earth photos are composites. And their animated visuals of earth are apparently CGI. I have seen video games with better graphics. The only photos we have that I know are from the Apollo 17

 

Galileo 

Hmm. I thought the earth was an oblate spheroid? That's what they said so it must be true. This looks like an almost perfect circle. Nevermind it looks fake.

Oh wait a minute. The earth is now apparently pear shaped according to Neil Tyson Degrasse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9G8fbnZ24

There are the supposed photos from the moon from the supposed moonwalk. But I am thoroughly convinced that was all a hoax. I can go down that rabbit trail if you want.

 



OoSnap said:


Actually, the earth has never been observed from space.

Again, this is only a remotely feasible conclusion if you begin with the conclusion, and try to work your way back from there. Suffice it to say, I have examined your links enough to conclude that you have not come near to meeting your burden of proof.