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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Xbox One Backwards compatibility with Discs. Isnt that DRM?

torok said:
archer9234 said:

No. The disc type Doesn't matter. It's the game engine and code that matter. Think of it like this: You are trying to run Windows 95 on a modern PC. You can't. Because the drivers and code do not understand the hardware. You have to make a enviroment that mimics 1995 hardware. Or you have to reprogram the code to now accept different hardware/software systems.


We can assume that they have a translator for 360 CPU/GPU to XOne CPU/GPU, similar to Rosetta for Mac OS when they changed the architecture, or they simply build an emulator. But as we have these download requirement, that I suppose that includes some config or executable, maybe the first option is more likely.

Yeah. I say MS was like just make it the same for everyone. Disc downloads the whole game. Like Digital. No need to make a custom installation, per game. To just get the data that needs to be overwritten to the HDD.



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I can't believe this thread was made. People will try to downgrade literally anything MS does.



Slarvax said:
Think about it. If you are able to install the game in any Xbox One with just one disc... Well, you have infinite games. Give it to a friend, he installs it, then to another and keep going...

This is why (this way of) BC needs some way of DRM.

This issue doesn't exists at all.

You can only play the retail game if you it on your disc tray... the needs of a new download is just for techinical reasons... the game is different from what you have on disc.



The details about the consoles limitations on backwards compatibility. The more skeptical i become :(



Sorry, what's shady here? Oh the idea that maybe someday potentially some publisher might maybe decide to remove their games from BC support in order to sell them. Sounds plausible and very lucrative. I know if I owned Mass Effect 1-3 and they were working in Xbone and then EA killed it and released ME Triology Super HD Edition then my response would be to buy that.

This reminds me of the EA Access fear threads where it seems good but is actually bad because maybe potentially one day every publisher will maybe have their own. Fast forward to present day and EA Access is great and no one else unfortunately has followed suit.



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BTW what is that talk about DRM.

They need to check if you have the original disc (aka if you bought the game).



Slarvax said:
Think about it. If you are able to install the game in any Xbox One with just one disc... Well, you have infinite games. Give it to a friend, he installs it, then to another and keep going...

This is why (this way of) BC needs some way of DRM.


I believe that the download is just a few MBs for config and, maybe, executables. You will need the disc in your tray all the time. So it's basically the same thing as X1/PS4 games.



ethomaz said:
BTW what is that talk about DRM.

They need to check if you have the original disc (aka if you bought the game).


yes its like with PS4 and Xbox games but  with both consoles you install the disc games on your Harddrive. This whole process can be done being offline like consoles should work, with Xbox 360 games on Xbox One it doesnt works that way obviously.

Its like with a physical PC game which can be played offline but requiring Steam registration of the key with the game which is DRM. I dont get why an internet service is required for backwards compatibility. 



Ruler said:
kowenicki said:
You're overthinking this...

You bought the game for xbox 360... for 360 there is no issue. This ability to play on the Xbox ONE is a gift.


no i am not overthinking this you need to download it from somewhere despite that the game is allready on the disc


id assume, because its different code. the game isnt compatible with xbo at a hardware level, but a software level. (which microsoft and/or the dev, had to tinker with the code of the game, to get them to emulate on the xbo).

i can almost guarantee that the game code of the new digital download, and the original game, are different. unlike the backward compatablilty of the old ps3, and xbox360, which you could just put it the disk, and the console would be able to read it and play it.



 

Ruler said:

yes its like with PS4 and Xbox games but  with both consoles you install the disc games on your Harddrive. This whole process can be done being offline like consoles should work, with Xbox 360 games on Xbox One it doesnt works that way obviously.

Its like with a physical PC game which can be played offline but requiring Steam registration of the key with the game which is DRM.

The game needs new binaries/executables like the 360 BC for original Xbox... that is why you need to download... the binaries/executables found in the disc won't run on Xbone.

It is a fair technical reason.