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think-man said:
Im scratching my head.


Because reviewers and their content complaints are already starting to lose relevancy?



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think-man said:
tbone51 said:


because of the dlc being early? 

Yeah I've heard the reasons, but the biggest complaint was the lack of content. The reviews are permanent, they have damaged the score of a game that would probably be in the high 80's if they'd just released it with more content. 



I for one am glad they decided to prioritize the players over the reviewers, and really they still got a great score so it's a win-win.

Einsam_Delphin said:
think-man said:

Yeah I've heard the reasons, but the biggest complaint was the lack of content. The reviews are permanent, they have damaged the score of a game that would probably be in the high 80's if they'd just released it with more content. 



I for one am glad they decided to prioritize the players over the reviewers, and really they still got a great score so it's a win-win.


I disagree but each to their own.



think-man said:
tbone51 said:


because of the dlc being early? 

Yeah I've heard the reasons, but the biggest complaint was the lack of content. The reviews are permanent, they have damaged the score of a game that would probably be in the high 80's if they'd just released it with more content. 

Im not sure Nintendo stated this but i really think they were letting people test the waters with the game, and i mean its kinda a brand new genre and they didnt want people to be overwhelm.



Is it me or this content was already on the disc? I am not refering to ranked battles but the weapond and the map...



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think-man said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


I for one am glad they decided to prioritize the players over the reviewers, and really they still got a great score so it's a win-win.


I disagree but each to their own.

Agreed. I don't personally see how what appears to be Nintendo cutting content from the core game so that they can drip feed it to their consumers later (thus creating the illusion of them supporting the game more than they really are) is them "prioritizing the players". It's one thing to extend a game's life by creating new content, but this just strikes me as silly. Ah well, as you say, each to their own ^^;



well, looks like my timing predictions were way off. and whilst i think that 5 maps was too mean to launch with (7/8 would have been much better IMO), it's clear that I was right about Nintendo's strategy. essentially, witholding content allows them to:

1) manage the player base; having all modes available at launch would split the number of people wanting to play each mode at any one time - making it harder to find matches, annoying the fanbase and ultimately driving people away from the game. Even on the 360, on MW2, it was impossible to find matches in some of the game modes because so few people were playing on them. Now imagine that same issue on a new IP, on a struggling console, with a fanbase who (for the most part) are playing a genre that is new to them. It would kill people's interest in the game. And trickling in new maps keeps the game fresh and keeps people coming back.

2) it's about teaching the game: as I mentioned above, shooters are uncommon on Ninty platforms and Splatoon is very different to other shooters - by trickling in content, and having a limited number of maps available at any one time, Nintendo is allowing people to learn how to play the game. From what they've said on the Direct, the new maps that are incoming are much more technically challenging than the ones at launch. It's about ensuring that everyone can keep up.

Essentially Nintendo isn't just managing out content over Summer to lessen a drought (although they are, and this strategy wouldn't work at another time of year); they are managing out content to ensure that their money invested in Splatoon pays off in the long run. Nintendo doesn't look to make all their money opening weekend, they look to create evergreen titles that sell consistently well over the life of a console. Like Mario Kart, like Smash, Nintendo are trying to position Splatoon in such a way that it becomes part of their stable of excellent MP games. I would be surprised if Splat2n wasn't out in the first 18 months of the NX.

If everything on disk was unlocked at the start then people wouldn't be able to find matches, they would get bored, and they would get frustrated due to the steepness of the learning curve. Splatoon may have had 90s across the board on its reviews, but that doesn't help it in 2 months time when no one is playing it anymore. Look at Titan Fall.

Drip feeding this content is definitely the right strategy, even if I personally would have preferred more maps on day one.

(BTW I've noticed that the loudest voices in the debate aren't Nintendo fans and haven't played the game. Sour grapes perhaps?)



Well Nintendo have been trying to do things the right way, but guess what!! So called gamers didn't support them, so i dont wanna hear any moaning about it now, if Nintendo start doing this gamers only have thereselfs to blame.



 

Einsam_Delphin said:
Mummelmann said:

What on earth?

Also, no, I'm not saying that interest is falling, which is the exact reason why I don't see the point in releasing more content a mere 4 days after launch. Wait a couple of weeks, release more while you're at it, getting one extra map and one weapon would only annoy me tbh.


Yep that's how most would respond to what you said!

The point is to keep interest, you don't wait until it starts falling. Doing something is obviously better for maintaining than doing nothing. They have plenty of updates loaded up so no reason not to start earlier than expected surprising and hyping people up. Lastly, I'm confident in saying that you are the only one on the planet who would be annoyed from getting a new map, mode, and weapon!


Four days after launch when it was clearly good to go with the game from release; yes, that's utterly meaningless. Don't make it something it's not. Content does not annoy me, the way it is delivered and withheld in this case, does, that's a huge difference.

And, no, I'm probably far from the only person who would be annoyed by that. And the whole pro-active stance is fine, but 4 days shows that that's not what this is about, this is like me throwing out a customer from a bar when he just paid for his first beer, in case he gets drunk.
The argument simply doesn't work and your insistence on applying rather underhanded tactics against my posts shows that you've probably realized this somewhere down the line.

PS: I think that "most people" actually see it the way I do, if opinions on this forum is anything to go by. A few weeks or a month; cool, more stuff! 4 days? Why on earth was this not available to me right away?



Mummelmann said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


Yep that's how most would respond to what you said!

The point is to keep interest, you don't wait until it starts falling. Doing something is obviously better for maintaining than doing nothing. They have plenty of updates loaded up so no reason not to start earlier than expected surprising and hyping people up. Lastly, I'm confident in saying that you are the only one on the planet who would be annoyed from getting a new map, mode, and weapon!


Four days after launch when it was clearly good to go with the game from release; yes, that's utterly meaningless. Don't make it something it's not. Content does not annoy me, the way it is delivered and withheld in this case, does, that's a huge difference.

And, no, I'm probably far from the only person who would be annoyed by that. And the whole pro-active stance is fine, but 4 days shows that that's not what this is about, this is like me throwing out a customer from a bar when he just paid for his first beer, in case he gets drunk.
The argument simply doesn't work and your insistence on applying rather underhanded tactics against my posts shows that you've probably realized this somewhere down the line.

PS: I think that "most people" actually see it the way I do, if opinions on this forum is anything to go by. A few weeks or a month; cool, more stuff! 4 days? Why on earth was this not available to me right away?

Mummelmann, do you have a WiiU and the game? If not, how do you know the feelings of ones who have it and played it?