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RenCutypoison said:
fluky-nintendy said:
RenCutypoison said:


That. People are not born with a defined sexuality. Anyway, anyone who's "affected" by pedophilia and is strong enough to resist his urges should not be looked down upon.

Renouncing on its own sexuality is not easy.

So what course of action should be taken if let's say someone comes out of the closet and says he or she is a pedophile? It's not exactly like being a homosexual that is attracted to same sex but adults.

I'm sorry but I can't see a pedophile as an orientation, I think it's a strong mental disorder that needs to be secluded.

Homosexuality used to be a mental disorder and pedophilia was acceptable. It's only a cultural thing.

Also does your comment suggest that all pedophiles are attracted to the same sex ? Technically it's only about 20%.

@bold when ever was pedophilia accepted? By the time there were little to no rules in about everything and people would kill someone like nothing. I didn't mean to imply that all pedos are attracted to same sex. They are primarly attracted by the age factor however, then maybe the gender I guess.



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I would regard paedophillia as a mental disorder that should be treated instead of stigmatized. UNLESS you obviously act upon that and molest a child.

Paedophillia doesn't mean rapist the same way that being heterosexual doesn't mean you rape women or lesbians raping women etc.

People only know about it through paedophiles raping because that's the only way you usually find out, if there's a male who has paedophillia he's not going to shout it out to the world. Because well.. you can imagine what happens.



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fluky-nintendy said:
RenCutypoison said:

Homosexuality used to be a mental disorder and pedophilia was acceptable. It's only a cultural thing.

Also does your comment suggest that all pedophiles are attracted to the same sex ? Technically it's only about 20%.

@bold when ever was pedophilia accepted? By the time there were little to no rules in about everything and people would kill someone like nothing. I didn't mean to imply that all pedos are attracted to same sex. They are primarly attracted by the age factor however, then maybe the gender I guess.

There are attracted towards a gender first, age is a fetich.

Also "when" it was accepted doesn't matter, even in the 50's it was still kinda accepted. It changed because we live longer and kids "stay kids" longer now. If kids still were working from 12 onwards in the west it'd still be acceptable IMO. Also most men are attracted to younger women. Some just like them a lot younger =p



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tak13 said:

 Child rape is an aftermath of being pedophile,woman rape isn't because you're heterosexual though,It's related to other things,in my opinion some psycopathy but it can be also owed to other things,such  as anger,socioeconomics,drugs/intoxication e.t.c!You did a weird extrapolation and comparison!Why?


So wait, what? Paedophile = rape children? Why is that? 
There are paedophiles and then there are paedophiles who rape.
There are straight men and then there are straight men who rape.

What's your reasoning for thinking otherwise?



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DonFerrari said:
tak13 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

First of all when mentioning pedophilia we're only referring to the act of an Adult being attracted to young children or prepubescent children ( mainly 11 years or younger ) not the actual act of abusing a child.

 

With this said, why does society on a whole see pedophilia as a mental disorder, rather than as a sexual orientation. The best reaction a person who's sexual orientation is pedophilia can have is to seek help, while the worst is that of being publically shamed even though the only crime this Adult person has committed is of being born in such a way that he is attracted to children.

 

Sure it shouldn't become legal but the negative stigma for this sexual orientation is pretty huge, when a person can't help himself since he was born this way.

 

Do you agree that society looks down too much on Pedophilia?

Is this hate justified? ( We're talking about the attraction to children not child abuse done by a person suffering from pedophilia )

Overall what do you think on Pedophilia ( The attraction not the act of child abuse )?

 

Disclaimer: Respect others people's opinion on the matter, therefore discuss the subject at hand like an adult and don't start calling other users names, if they have a different opinion from yours.

 

 

I'll post my opinion later but here is why it's mental disorder:

Development and sexual orientation

Pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time.[44] It is self-discovered, not chosen.[5] For these reasons, pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation.[44] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[45]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

We can teach a homo not to act on his impulse, so should homossexuality be considered a crime?


Hahahahaahah people got that and come into really  bad conclusions!By your mind maybe but by science you can't and you shouldn't since it's not bad being homosexual(it's your nature) and acting on your impulses,while you don't hurt anyone,you have sexual intercourse with a  consenting adult!

Also you didn't use the whole phrase in the post  from wiki-paedophilia that I quoted,it says to refrain from acting on their impulses WHICH CAUSE HARM TO CHILDREN!But even if you can teach a gay to not to act on his impulse,Homosexual's impluses doesn't harm anyone(so why try to refrain him on acting on them?) and it's sexual orientation since you born but paedophilia mental disorder of sexual preference/interest  which emerges before or during puberty!Furthemore,you used the word crime in your comparison,while the quote from wiki says about mental disorder,so you did your extrapolation wrongly!Your phrase should be''We can teach a homo not to act on his impulse, so should homossexuality be considered a crime mental disorder''?Plus that Being paedophile,it's not a crime it's  a mental disorder not only because psychiatrists can prevent them from fulfiling their sexual desires but because  this particularity also damages the children,child rape which is a cause of paedophilia is the crime...

Wow people,read more carefully to understand rightly,the misguided extrapolations/comparisons(others with heterosexual/woman rape other with homosexuality) that some did with that post surprises me negatively!If you can't distinguish the differences...Then I'm sad!



ArchangelMadzz said:
tak13 said:

 Child rape is an aftermath of being pedophile,woman rape isn't because you're heterosexual though,It's related to other things,in my opinion some psycopathy but it can be also owed to other things,such  as anger,socioeconomics,drugs/intoxication e.t.c!You did a weird extrapolation and comparison!Why?


So wait, what? Paedophile = rape children? Why is that? 
There are paedophiles and then there are paedophiles who rape.
There are straight men and then there are straight men who rape.

What's your reasoning for thinking otherwise?


You don't rape because you're straight....People you can't fathom the difference?It's not a cause of your sexuality,you will burn my mind today!:P



ArchangelMadzz said:
tak13 said:

 Child rape is an aftermath of being pedophile,woman rape isn't because you're heterosexual though,It's related to other things,in my opinion some psycopathy but it can be also owed to other things,such  as anger,socioeconomics,drugs/intoxication e.t.c!You did a weird extrapolation and comparison!Why?


So wait, what? Paedophile = rape children? Why is that? 
There are paedophiles and then there are paedophiles who rape.
There are straight men and then there are straight men who rape.

What's your reasoning for thinking otherwise?

Your logic is flawed.

The fundamental problem is that all children are non-consenting, because children are naive, do not undertand consequence and are non-sexual.

So if you are fantasizing about pedophilia, you are fantasizing about rape.  You are desiring someone who is vulnerable, undeveloped and unable to recipricate your sexual feelings.

If you are a heterosexual male who desires women, presumeably you are desiring a consenting, sexually developed female.

Now, if you desire unwilling females or desire to rape or coherse vulnerable females into having sex with you, sure, that is very similar to being a pedophile.



Wtf



regardless of a persons sexual orientation, how many of them go thru adulthood w out EVER acting on them? Vey few- so if a person is a pedofile the best thing they can do for society and themselves is voluntary castration (elimination of any desire) as to insure they never act out and destroy a childs life

Why would the question in this op ever need to be asked- it should be obvious to anyone other than those trying to justify it