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DerNebel said:
true_fan said:
XB1, 360, then Win 10 when the timed period ends.

On another note Spencer is a big wuss, my biggest gripe with him.

Oh look, we've found one of the guys that needs Tomb Raider to not appear on PS4 so he can be happy about it.


Cane blame him. Like him many of us (inclyding myself) likes a game because of exclusivity. Thus it works.



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daredevil.shark said:
DerNebel said:
true_fan said:
XB1, 360, then Win 10 when the timed period ends.

On another note Spencer is a big wuss, my biggest gripe with him.

Oh look, we've found one of the guys that needs Tomb Raider to not appear on PS4 so he can be happy about it.


Cane blame him. Like him many of us (inclyding myself) likes a game because of exclusivity. Thus it works.

Just use their logic they use on ps4, its timed, so it ddoesnt count. 



Microsoft has done timed exclusivity before and it killed everyones buzz for Bioshock on the Playstation. Its pretty sound in strategy but screwed up at the same time. At least we know with Sony and SF that Sony is funding the game. MS isn't doing the same. Tomb Raider 2 was planned out the second the first game dropped.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft has done timed exclusivity before and it killed everyones buzz for Bioshock on the Playstation. Its pretty sound in strategy but screwed up at the same time. At least we know with Sony and SF that Sony is funding the game. MS isn't doing the same. Tomb Raider 2 was planned out the second the first game dropped.


Microsoft is helping to fund development of Rise of the Tomb Raider. There are articles from the game's developers basically saying that Microsoft brought in additional talent to help with development of the game.  They could have easily screwed gamers on other platforms like what Sony did when the original Tomb Raider 2 when it became a PS1 exclusive but they  chose not to.



Legend11 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft has done timed exclusivity before and it killed everyones buzz for Bioshock on the Playstation. Its pretty sound in strategy but screwed up at the same time. At least we know with Sony and SF that Sony is funding the game. MS isn't doing the same. Tomb Raider 2 was planned out the second the first game dropped.


Microsoft is helping to fund development of Rise of the Tomb Raider. There are articles from the game's developers basically saying that Microsoft brought in additional talent to help with development of the game.  They could have easily screwed gamers on other platforms like what Sony did when the original Tomb Raider 2 when it became a PS1 exclusive but they  chose not to.


No. The game was already funded.

Microsoft just paid to cockblock Sony, nothing more.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft has done timed exclusivity before and it killed everyones buzz for Bioshock on the Playstation. Its pretty sound in strategy but screwed up at the same time. At least we know with Sony and SF that Sony is funding the game. MS isn't doing the same. Tomb Raider 2 was planned out the second the first game dropped.


The biggest difference is that gamers on other systems are getting completely screwed and the SF deal while RotTR is just a timed deal.  In the end both companies are giving millions of dollars to the companies developing the games.  The only time an exclusive deal is a good thing for everyone is when the game would have been cancelled or never made with the added money.  Does anyone really think a new Street Fighter game wouldn't have come out without Sony's moneyhat?



Legend11 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft has done timed exclusivity before and it killed everyones buzz for Bioshock on the Playstation. Its pretty sound in strategy but screwed up at the same time. At least we know with Sony and SF that Sony is funding the game. MS isn't doing the same. Tomb Raider 2 was planned out the second the first game dropped.


The biggest difference is that gamers on other systems are getting completely screwed and the SF deal while RotTR is just a timed deal.  In the end both companies are giving millions of dollars to the companies developing the games.  The only time an exclusive deal is a good thing for everyone is when the game would have been cancelled or never made with the added money.  Does anyone really think a new Street Fighter game wouldn't have come out without Sony's moneyhat?


Capcom stated that Street Fighter 5 was to risky in it's current financial state before the deal took place. We would have *NO* Street Fighter 5 if it wasn't for the deal. That is one less game anyone gets. The Tomb Raider deal just takes away a game from an audience. Two different scenarios.

Do you remember how long it took between Street Fighter 3 and Street Fighter 4? The situation is much worse for Capcom this time.



Protendo said:
Legend11 said:


Microsoft is helping to fund development of Rise of the Tomb Raider. There are articles from the game's developers basically saying that Microsoft brought in additional talent to help with development of the game.  They could have easily screwed gamers on other platforms like what Sony did when the original Tomb Raider 2 when it became a PS1 exclusive but they  chose not to.


No. The game was already funded.

Microsoft just payed to cockblock Sony, nothing more.

Microsoft is helping to fund the game.  Could it have been made without their funding?  Of course just like a new Street Fighter game could have been made without Sony funding.  There's no difference between the two games other than gamers on one console getting completely screwed over.



Legend11 said:

Microsoft is helping to fund the game.  Could it have been made without their funding?  Of course just like a new Street Fighter game could have been made without Sony funding.  There's no difference between the two games other than gamers on one console getting completely screwed over.

No. Capcom themselves said Street Fighter wouldn't have happened. Capcom is in a stressful financial situation. Microsoft didn't have the development studio in Japan to help, so who was going to step up? Nintendo? Sony is helping to develop the game. Sony's own developers are part of the project.



Protendo said:
Legend11 said:


The biggest difference is that gamers on other systems are getting completely screwed and the SF deal while RotTR is just a timed deal.  In the end both companies are giving millions of dollars to the companies developing the games.  The only time an exclusive deal is a good thing for everyone is when the game would have been cancelled or never made with the added money.  Does anyone really think a new Street Fighter game wouldn't have come out without Sony's moneyhat?


Capcom stated that Street Fighter 5 was to risky in it's current financial state before the deal took place. We would have *NO* Street Fighter 5 if it wasn't for the deal. That is one less game anyone gets. The Tomb Raider deal just takes away a game from an audience. Two different scenarios.

Do you remember how long it took between Street Fighter 3 and Street Fighter 4? The situation is much worse for Capcom this time.

Risky?  The game and its derivatives sold over 8 million copies.  I really find it hard to believe there are people out there that think the game wouldn't have been made without Sony stepping in to help fund it.  C'mon Son get real, how much would a fighting game cost to develop, we're not talking Call of Duty type budgets here.