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What do you think about these sales estimates

Yes, its spot on! 32 16.24%
 
Could be a bit revised, b... 36 18.27%
 
Not even close... 129 65.48%
 
Total:197
super6646 said:
Drazgonow said:

Your right, might be less if PS4 gets a cut and starts doing to X1 in NA what its doing to it in Europe. 


Lol no I mean more. PS4 isn't the perfect machine, it was lucky to face everything it had great in the beginning, but now its not. Hype is dying, and you know it. XB1 will do much more than 10 million, your just in denial


Looks like you are the one in denial, ps4 is outselling x1 2:1 or more most weeks....if anything when ps4 gets a price drop will get worse for x1...For x1 to gain ground it will need to start outselling ps4 at times, that is not happening, where in the world is MS going to gain ground? US and UK is not enough they are losing there.



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super6646 said:
Aura7541 said:

Let's see.... Ratchet & Clank, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, God of War III Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, and Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD just from thinking from the top of my head. MLB 15: The Show is preordering well on Amazon right now, too.

Of course, exclusives aren't the only games that can move hardware. MGSV: TPP, for instance, will move more PS4's than XB1's since the series is strongly associated with Playstation.


And how many are system sellers? None.

Ps4 is itself selling itself, hugh third party support and more games spread out throughout the year, maybe one day you will realise it takes more then halo to outsell a PS system....Thats the only system seller MS has, sony's diversite sells itself.  One day you'll realise third party games matter more then exclusives.



Shadow1980 said:

Assuming the PS4 gets a cut to $300 this year, I think this is a plausible sales curve for eighth-gen systems:

The PS4 has its best performance this year,


There is something wrong between the 2015 and 2016 years of your graph. So for you the PS4 will reach its peak year in 2015 without having released: UC4, TLOU2 and Gran turismo 7? I find it really hard to believe.



Shadow1980 said:

 

 

So, that's why my (very rough) projections for future PS4 sales hinge entirely on its price cuts. Assuming the PS4 gets a cut to $300 this year, the boost from that alone will likely be sufficient to propel 2015 to be the best year for the system. Meanwhile, Uncharted, TLOU2 (if it happens), and GT7 are unlikely to provide sufficient boosts to have a measurable effect in year-to-year sales. Price cuts matter far more than individual software releases when it comes to providing boosts to sales.


But what about the future price cuts? Imagine when the PS4 will be at 199$ in 2017-18 with UC4 and TLOU2 bundle for instance.

In previous gen we can see that both PS3 and X360 got their best year their 6th or 7th year. But you think PS4 will reach its peak year the 3rd year only even when we know that those consoles have a great potential for future price cuts?

All points to the fact that 2016 will really be the year of PS4 will its major exclusives released this year combined with a price cut. Think about it. PS4 maybe will have a price cut for end of year but the console is still selling at 399$ for most of the year (even if bundled), and without UC, GT or TLOU2.

In summary I find you analysis pretty much wrong on pretty much everything, at the very least wrong on the most important points.

 

But your graphs are great! ;)



kitler53 said:

and people think ps4 cannot possibly reach 100m.

if xbox hits 70 million then ps4 must be on route to 140+ million.


I see a 120-130M PS4 and a 55-70M X1.



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No, just...no.

You overestimate the Xone a lot.



Xbox will have a 14 million year, when it hits 200 people are going to go crazy over it. not only that but the game line up will be a lot better. I find it funny people think it can't hit 14. Look at 360 numbers and where it ended up with RROD. This site has become very one sided.



super6646 said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
Yeah, I don't see the XBO selling 14 million.


Why not, people say PS4 can do 20 million, why can't the XB1 do 14?


It will hit 14 million easily and come close to it again. I think your numbers are going to be very close. Halo 5 will spawn massive sales this year, everytime a halo launches it does so.  If we get a gears remake, even better. Also we are not seeing all the games they have been working on yet. With phil Spencer at the wheel I think gamers are in for a treat.



I'm getting alot of hate here!



super6646 said:

Now I do go to these sale threads sometimes and look at people's estimates. I usually see around 100-120 million for the PS4, and I fully agree with that. Wii U is around 15-25 million and that seems good as well. But I look at the XB1, and I generally see 30-50 million. Now that's what I have to disagree with. The XB1 did around 8 million in its first year, which is not bad but meh. Anyway this year we have a lower price and Halo 5. I can estimate we can do around 10 million in 2015. Now people can think its a bit much, but really the PS4 should be ahead, but I think the XB1 can still do over 10 million. Also we have Halo 5 which SHOULD move consoles. Even if "most" Halo player's already have gotten the console, we should see a modest boost. Then we have 2016, and I'm predicting a slim Xbox One and a price cut to 249$. I'm almost certain this'll be the Xbox One's peak year. And I estimate it could push around 14 million. Then I see 2017 have a modest drop off to around 12 million. Now 2017 could peak 2016 but its unlikely, as I see this point at which many of the people who want the console already have it. Then I see 2018 drop a bit more to 10.5 million, but it should hold thanks to a new Halo (that's when I'm predicting a new Halo). Then 2019, with the release of the next gen systems, I can see around 8.5 million. That's a grand total of 62 million, plus of course the console still sells after the gen is over, and the other 8 million can come from there. That's a grand total of 70 million. If the gen is a bit shorter, I think it can still do but it'll be harder. Tell me what you think about this, and I'll be putting this in my sig to either be a show off or be a complete fool at the end of the gen. 


I estimate 30-40 million because it seems fairly obvious to me that the Xbox One will saturate its markets far faster than Playstation will.  

-Japan rejected the X1 completely, and the PS4 only needs Japanese games to start selling well there.  It is already picking up steam there now that a few good ones are out.

-Europe is more of a PS stronghold than it ever was before, and it always was one.  There is room for the X1 to grow a little in the UK but really there is no point in getting one there anymore with how rediculously it is priced.

-In the US the X1 may sell alright but it is becoming clear that Sony is gaining ground, not losing it in the US.

-PS is just in way more markets for better prices.

 

On top of all of these points keep in mind that the PS4's architecture is just flat out more future-proof and so we can probably expect better support long-term.

Last, the PS4 IS STILL $400 and it is cheaper to produce.  Whenever Sony wants to they can just drop the axe on MS by dropping the price down to $299.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]