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What do you think about these sales estimates

Yes, its spot on! 32 16.24%
 
Could be a bit revised, b... 36 18.27%
 
Not even close... 129 65.48%
 
Total:197
Aura7541 said:
super6646 said:

Bloodborne was great but what about after that? Uncharted is 2016. They have nothing significant announced, and I really have my doubts.

Let's see.... Ratchet & Clank, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, God of War III Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, and Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD just from thinking from the top of my head. MLB 15: The Show is preordering well on Amazon right now, too.

Of course, exclusives aren't the only games that can move hardware. MGSV: TPP, for instance, will move more PS4's than XB1's since the series is strongly associated with Playstation.

Arkham Knight as well since Sony has the marketing rights.



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Aura7541 said:
super6646 said:

Bloodborne was great but what about after that? Uncharted is 2016. They have nothing significant announced, and I really have my doubts.

Let's see.... Ratchet & Clank, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, God of War III Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, and Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD just from thinking from the top of my head. MLB 15: The Show is preordering well on Amazon right now, too.

Of course, exclusives aren't the only games that can move hardware. MGSV: TPP, for instance, will move more PS4's than XB1's since the series is strongly associated with Playstation.


And how many are system sellers? None.



TheGoldenBoy said:
Aura7541 said:

Let's see.... Ratchet & Clank, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, God of War III Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, and Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD just from thinking from the top of my head. MLB 15: The Show is preordering well on Amazon right now, too.

Of course, exclusives aren't the only games that can move hardware. MGSV: TPP, for instance, will move more PS4's than XB1's since the series is strongly associated with Playstation.

Arkham Knight as well since Sony has the marketing rights.

Does Sony also have marketing rights for Mortal Kombat X? It seems to be preordering better for the PS4 on Amazon. The XB1 version is not even ranked.

And what's great is that all these multiplats and exclusives are evenly distributed for the next months. Even summer is pretty well covered.



Aura7541 said:
TheGoldenBoy said:

Arkham Knight as well since Sony has the marketing rights.

Does Sony also have marketing rights for Mortal Kombat X? It seems to be preordering better for the PS4 on Amazon. The XB1 version is not even ranked.

And what's great is that all these multiplats and exclusives are evenly distributed for the next months. Even summer is pretty well covered.

I think they do. Everything I've seen of MKX is always on PS4.



super6646 said:
Aura7541 said:

Let's see.... Ratchet & Clank, Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5, God of War III Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, and Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD just from thinking from the top of my head. MLB 15: The Show is preordering well on Amazon right now, too.

Of course, exclusives aren't the only games that can move hardware. MGSV: TPP, for instance, will move more PS4's than XB1's since the series is strongly associated with Playstation.

And how many are system sellers? None.

System sellers in terms of what? Of the magnitude of Halo? Definitely not, but regardless, these games move hardware sales one way or another. Because the PS4 has significantly more exclusives, the cumulative effect will be significant. Look at what Dragon Quest Heroes to the PS4 in Japan. If MLB 15: The Show isn't a system seller in any form, why are there two SKUs in the Top 20 in Amazon's hourly charts?

Also, it's a "divide-and-conquer" lineup in both ways. The games are evenly spread out for the next months as well as catering to fanbases of different genres. Want JRPGs? Here's FFX|X-2 HD and Persona 5. Platformers? Got Ratchet & Clank and Tearaway Unfolded. Horror? Until Dawn. There is even a hack n' slasher, musou, and a sports game.



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No Man's Sky has the potential to be a system seller.

 

With a Ratchet & Clank movie coming out, that can be a system seller for parents buying a ps4 for the kids. 

 

Gow3 remaster could be a system seller for people switching to ps4 from the 360, just as TLOU was last year. 

 

usf4 could be a system seller for hardcore fighting fans considering EVO is going to default to ps4 for street fighter tournaments this gen. 

 

Then there are the unannounced games for holiday 2015. There might be a uncharted collection in the mix. 

 

Depending on the Morpheus showing at E3, that could be a system seller as well as potential launch of PSNow.

 

What you need to think about is how will x1 sales increase if they only have holiday 2015 to play catch up whilst ps4 gets bursts of increased sales throughout the year and on average always dominating sales ww anyway. 



XBox is practically dead outside the US, no amount of price cuts will revive it. And it is bound to run out of hardcore Halo fans soon, and with significantly less exclusive offerings, and with inferior hardware quality and inferior multiplat game quality, it is hard to imagine many sensible people choosing it iver a vastly superior PS4.
It will be a miracle if XOne sells more than 8-9 million in any given year, and will have a tough time reaching even 40 million before MS finally gives up on it and moves completely onto the PC gaming market, as they have already started with Fable and Halo. I predict XBox as a console will be discontinued by 2018 at the latest, with only the name brand remaining as a PC/mobile service.



xbox and playstation arent equals
playstation had to every single thing wrong and more last generation to become playstations equal
now th roles are reversed, xbox is never gonna reach ps4 levels of popularity worldwide or longevity
the markets where it dominated usa ( 42m ) and uk ( 9m ) where more than 50m of their sales came from last gen are now neck and neck with the ps , and regions where ps dominated last gen , is getting even more dominated by playstation this gen
ltd xb1 will sell like 35m - 42m in us and uk and maybe 55 - 60 mworldwide



Burek said:
XBox is practically dead outside the US, no amount of price cuts will revive it. And it is bound to run out of hardcore Halo fans soon, and with significantly less exclusive offerings, and with inferior hardware quality and inferior multiplat game quality, it is hard to imagine many sensible people choosing it iver a vastly superior PS4.
It will be a miracle if XOne sells more than 8-9 million in any given year, and will have a tough time reaching even 40 million before MS finally gives up on it and moves completely onto the PC gaming market, as they have already started with Fable and Halo. I predict XBox as a console will be discontinued by 2018 at the latest, with only the name brand remaining as a PC/mobile service.


So you say the XB1 is a failure, will stagnate in sales, and Microsoft will give up. Well in that case I'm done with console gaming. I was about done in May 2013, but luckily they changed their policies. I use to be pro-nintendo you know. Then the GC came and I decided to never go back to Nintendo, I got an Xbox and PS2. Then came the 7th gen, my luck was nonstop as I never got a RRod for the 360. The PS3 was great, but I ditched once 2011 came. They where hacked  and didn't have the balls to admit it till later. The single handed reason I left Sony. Now its just Xbox. I gave the XB1 a chance, but only because they flopped on their policies. 



You do realize that the PS4 is beating the xbone by more than 2 to 1 all year so far.