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oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

Yet again. If the exclusives are crushing the cross gen multiplats, it means the cross gen multiplats aren't even tapping into the system's potential. that's only obvious when the game was made for previous gen hardware, porting won't magically increase graphics, especially lazy ports.

thats true, problem exclusives ARENT destroying cross gen multiplats. GTA5 for the PS4 and xbone looks better than anything released on Wii U thus far. But you keep dodging my point exclusives are going to look better. BUT you are saying Wii U is leaps abouve PS360, if they are upporting the games then they should at least look noticably different. They dont. PS4 and ONE versions of games like AC4 look noticable better than PS360 versions why is it not the same for WIi U? answer the question.

Wii u exclusives ARE destroying cross gen multiplats.

"GTA5 for the PS4 and xbone looks better than anything released on Wii U thus far"

No, it doesn't.

"PS4 and ONE versions of games like AC4 look noticable better than PS360 versions why is it not the same for WIi U? answer the question."

Lazy ports. but games like AC4 don't look much different than on ps360, they were just better optimized than wii u ports.



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Materia-Blade said:
oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

Yet again. If the exclusives are crushing the cross gen multiplats, it means the cross gen multiplats aren't even tapping into the system's potential. that's only obvious when the game was made for previous gen hardware, porting won't magically increase graphics, especially lazy ports.

thats true, problem exclusives ARENT destroying cross gen multiplats. GTA5 for the PS4 and xbone looks better than anything released on Wii U thus far. But you keep dodging my point exclusives are going to look better. BUT you are saying Wii U is leaps abouve PS360, if they are upporting the games then they should at least look noticably different. They dont. PS4 and ONE versions of games like AC4 look noticable better than PS360 versions why is it not the same for WIi U? answer the question.

Wii u exclusives ARE destroying cross gen multiplats.

"GTA5 for the PS4 and xbone looks better than anything released on Wii U thus far"

No, it doesn't.

"PS4 and ONE versions of games like AC4 look noticable better than PS360 versions why is it not the same for WIi U? answer the question."

Lazy ports. but games like AC4 don't look much different than on ps360, they were just better optimized than wii u ports.

which game on Wii U looks better than PS4 one version of GTA5? ill wait. 

Lazy excuses. If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right? Not like PS4 One versions were much better optimized but the systems are so much powerful you notice a difference anyway. So i guess the Wii U aint really that strong.



oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

Wii u exclusives ARE destroying cross gen multiplats.

"GTA5 for the PS4 and xbone looks better than anything released on Wii U thus far"

No, it doesn't.

"PS4 and ONE versions of games like AC4 look noticable better than PS360 versions why is it not the same for WIi U? answer the question."

Lazy ports. but games like AC4 don't look much different than on ps360, they were just better optimized than wii u ports.

which game on Wii U looks better than PS4 one version of GTA5? ill wait. 

Lazy excuses. If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right? Not like PS4 One versions were much better optimized but the systems are so much powerful you notice a difference anyway. So i guess the Wii U aint really that strong.

"If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right?"

If the developer is actually doing something, yes, it's not a problem. that's why wii u's exclusives are crushing the lazy ports.



Materia-Blade said:
oniyide said:

which game on Wii U looks better than PS4 one version of GTA5? ill wait. 

Lazy excuses. If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right? Not like PS4 One versions were much better optimized but the systems are so much powerful you notice a difference anyway. So i guess the Wii U aint really that strong.

"If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right?"

If the developer is actually doing something, yes, it's not a problem. that's why wii u's exclusives are crushing the lazy ports.

exclusives are gonna to crush any multiplat 90% of the time regardless of system. Thats kind of a weak argument. It just comes down to devs be lazy and hate Nintendo instead of you just admitting the system isnt as powerful as you think



oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

"If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right?"

If the developer is actually doing something, yes, it's not a problem. that's why wii u's exclusives are crushing the lazy ports.

exclusives are gonna to crush any multiplat 90% of the time regardless of system. Thats kind of a weak argument. It just comes down to devs be lazy and hate Nintendo instead of you just admitting the system isnt as powerful as you think

B ... bu ... but Wii U has magical Nintendium under its hood, that's what allows it to perform nearly as good as a PS4 at only 33 watts on a 40nm manufacturing process (lol). You'll see in 2015 when Nintendo releases the super awesome surprise game at E3 that blows everyone away and Nintendo drops to $249.99 and starts outselling the PS4 by a 5:1 ratio. Then all these lazy third parties will come crawling back to Nintendo but Nintendo will be so awesome they'll be like "check this out ... it's Mario Theft Auto, which is 100x better than GTA" and third parties will be so ashamed they won't even be able to make Nintendo games

/end wet dream. 



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oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

"If the system is that much more powerful then it shouldnt even be a problem looking and running better right?"

If the developer is actually doing something, yes, it's not a problem. that's why wii u's exclusives are crushing the lazy ports.

exclusives are gonna to crush any multiplat 90% of the time regardless of system. Thats kind of a weak argument. It just comes down to devs be lazy and hate Nintendo instead of you just admitting the system isnt as powerful as you think

No. Exclusives are meant to outperform multiplats, but not by such a huge margin. Regardless, wii u's multiplats were developed with ps360 in mind, wich explains the big gap.



Just humour me here,

 

What if the NX was a Nintendo build steam machine running steam Os that also played exclusive nintendo titles through a specific nintendo menu exclusive to the NX? It would have a massive, guaranteed steam line up and back catalog, with exclusive backward compatibility with wii U games too such as smash pros and mk8. It would also help valve immensely. 

 

Price tag with mid level steam machine and Nintendos economies of scale? $500



Materia-Blade said:
oniyide said:

exclusives are gonna to crush any multiplat 90% of the time regardless of system. Thats kind of a weak argument. It just comes down to devs be lazy and hate Nintendo instead of you just admitting the system isnt as powerful as you think

No. Exclusives are meant to outperform multiplats, but not by such a huge margin. Regardless, wii u's multiplats were developed with ps360 in mind, wich explains the big gap.

so then why do the PS4 ONE versions look MUCH better than the others? Since it had PS360 in mind, it shouldnt be that much of a difference



Soundwave said:
oniyide said:

exclusives are gonna to crush any multiplat 90% of the time regardless of system. Thats kind of a weak argument. It just comes down to devs be lazy and hate Nintendo instead of you just admitting the system isnt as powerful as you think

B ... bu ... but Wii U has magical Nintendium under its hood, that's what allows it to perform nearly as good as a PS4 at only 33 watts on a 40nm manufacturing process (lol). You'll see in 2015 when Nintendo releases the super awesome surprise game at E3 that blows everyone away and Nintendo drops to $249.99 and starts outselling the PS4 by a 5:1 ratio. Then all these lazy third parties will come crawling back to Nintendo but Nintendo will be so awesome they'll be like "check this out ... it's Mario Theft Auto, which is 100x better than GTA" and third parties will be so ashamed they won't even be able to make Nintendo games

/end wet dream. 

Easy, soundwave.



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oniyide said:
Materia-Blade said:

No. Exclusives are meant to outperform multiplats, but not by such a huge margin. Regardless, wii u's multiplats were developed with ps360 in mind, wich explains the big gap.

so then why do the PS4 ONE versions look MUCH better than the others? Since it had PS360 in mind, it shouldnt be that much of a difference

"Since it had PS360 in mind, it shouldnt be that much of a difference"

And it isn't. the main difference is resolution.