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What do you want?

Just one console for all the games (fusion) 91 35.97%
 
Nintendo digital platform for PC and consoles 35 13.83%
 
A very powerful console 82 32.41%
 
Crazy stuff like wii and wii u. 45 17.79%
 
Total:253

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I think I'm the only person who doesn't really like the idea of having a fusion console..

Of course there are many benefits for having a fusion console... but if Nintendo just had better cross plat and better cloud NNID compatibilities, then a handheld + home system would be perfectly fine



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Yeah, I feel like I`m happy to get any game for the Wii U at this point... :



 

              

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sundin13 said:
onionberry said:


So nintendo is not the problem? okay.


I think there are a lot of factors, many of them the fault of third parties, and saying "Nintendo should do something about it" makes it seem like a much simpler problem with a much simpler solution than in reality. The truth is, there is no simple fix and power is only a small part of the problem...


That's why:

Nintendo fusion would be great if you don't have third party games, because you can play every Nintendo game on one console. That would stop the giant draught. Problem solved.



What port? People are excited for a 3rd party port? I thought us, Nintendo fans, had a more exquisite taste in games and only accepted the masterpieces Nintendo makes.



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Well Wii U owners don't have much to look forward to, so every port and indie game makes them excited.



    

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That's because third-party games are the best games!



im on the fence about the idea of fusion D:



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Frankly, there's only so much Nintendo can do about third party games. If third parties screw themselves over and then blame Nintendo, well you can only do so much. One thing Nintendo could do is play PR hardball on that stuff, calling the companies out for being morons and possibly suing for damages when companies flat out lie in such a way as to cause damage to their brand (DICE and Deep Silver claiming the Wii U was the same or weaker than the 360). But that would start a war that would benefit no one in the end and accomplish nothing.

They can play nicer and make their platform easier to work with, but beyond that? Not much.

One thing's for sure, if you want that enhanced third party support, the Fusion isn't going to get it. It would be at an absurd power disadvantage to ninth gen hardware along with other complexities that would come from having a handheld and console as one device. The only aspect of Fusion that I think makes any sense is having similar OS's and having the systems be very similar in terms of how you code for them. That would allow for more fluidity in Nintendo's dev teams. Other than that, keep the two platforms separate.



Nuvendil said:

One thing's for sure, if you want that enhanced third party support, the Fusion isn't going to get it. It would be at an absurd power disadvantage to ninth gen hardware along with other complexities that would come from having a handheld and console as one device. The only aspect of Fusion that I think makes any sense is having similar OS's and having the systems be very similar in terms of how you code for them. That would allow for more fluidity in Nintendo's dev teams. Other than that, keep the two platforms separate.


The point of the unified concept is that they can be more self-reliant and nullify the need for 3rd parties by significantly increasing their internal software output. 3rd parties are still welcome, they just aren't the main focus, plus it will still likely get the strong support from Japanese devs since Nintendo has pretty good relations with them and indie support which Nintendo has been increasing relations with over the last few years.

It also wouldn't be one device, it would be a unified ecosystem, things like architecture, operating system, online infrastructure would all be the same but they would have multiple devices in different form factors that share the same games/apps similar to the way Apple does with their iOS devices like iPod/iPhone/iPad/Apple TV.

We could see something like Nintendo Fusion, a Wii U level handheld with a 5 inch, 480p screen, released Spring 2016 then in the Fall they release Fusion TV, a more poweful console version that plays all the same games but in 1080p with some extra effects. Then in Summer 2017 release Fusion Mini and Fusion XL, which are the same as the original handheld but with 4 inch and 6 inch screens. From that point do incremental upgrades every 1.5-2 years or so, upgrade the handheld line to 720p in fall 2018 then upgrade the console to 4k in fall 2019 then the handheld line again to 1080p in fall 2020. Something like this to keep hardware sales from faltering and allowing Nintendo to continue pumping out games for a single unified ecosystem.



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