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Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:


Found it : http://www.dragonquest-fan.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12685&page=1#373261

If you cant read, it says exactly this : " the assets from the next DQ XI will equal the CG parts from DQ H trailer " so warn them it's impossible because they are doing it.

There is your argument.

 

Really, do you still believe it's coming on Wii U ? If so, i'm opened to a bet

Whatever game the ps4 runs, the wii u can run. "Assets" may not necessarily mean actual graphics.

I won't make any bet because it's pointless. I know it can go either way while you are convicted it will be a ps4 exclusive without any evidence.



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Aerys on 26 February 2015
Materia-Blade said:
Aerys said:


Found it : http://www.dragonquest-fan.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12685&page=1#373261

If you cant read, it says exactly this : " the assets from the next DQ XI will equal the CG parts from DQ H trailer " so warn them it's impossible because they are doing it.

There is your argument.

 

Really, do you still believe it's coming on Wii U ? If so, i'm opened to a bet

Whatever game the ps4 runs, the wii u can run. "Assets" may not necessarily mean actual graphics.

I won't make any bet because it's pointless. I know it can go either way while you are convicted it will be a ps4 exclusive without any evidence.


Oh i even made a thread  on that : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=191719

 

Hum really dont know what to answer on that... So you are saying Wii U could run FFXV, The Order, ... ?

 

Wow what a bad faith, you ask me for the link of this argument and now you say " pff it can go either way its not an evidence" sorry but there is much more evidence it will come on PS4 than Wii U, you really have to refuse to see it to not be able to see it.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

sc94597 on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:
sc94597 said:

And anybody with a bit of technical sense would not. 


Tha fact you cant bet is because you doubt of your words ? Me, i have no doubts, i know the game wont come on WiiU or 3DS, it's so obvious.

Any rational being has doubts. It is only fanatics who don't. Honestly, I don't bet because the few bets I have done in the past took up sig space for nothing and it wasn't for years that they were resolved. Plus my activity on this site is sporadic, and the consequences aren't really that big of a deal. The tactics you are using in this discussion don't say much for your argument, to be honest. 



sc94597 on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:

Found it : http://www.dragonquest-fan.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12685&page=1#373261

If you cant read, it says exactly this : " the assets from the next DQ XI will equal the CG parts from DQ H trailer " ( there is nothing really impressive in these assets compared to what we already have ) so warn them it's impossible because they are doing it.

 

Sure and Killzone 2 was supposed to look as good as its pre-rendered trailer. Dark Souls 2 was supposed to look as good as its trailers. Developers say a lot of things which are bullshit. Anyway, can you give some details of your source? It seems quite sketchy. 



Aerys on 26 February 2015
sc94597 said:
Aerys said:


Tha fact you cant bet is because you doubt of your words ? Me, i have no doubts, i know the game wont come on WiiU or 3DS, it's so obvious.

Any rational being has doubts. It is only fanatics who don't. Honestly, I don't bet because the few bets I have done in the past took up sig space for nothing and it wasn't for years that they were resolved. Plus my activity on this site is sporadic, and the consequences aren't really that big of a deal. The tactics you are using in this discussion don't say much for your argument, to be honest. 

Nop, only fanatics cant see the obvious when all the evidence point at  one single possibility, most people already understood it's coming on PS4 because they follow the news

There is not tactics, i just facepalm reading such things, so stubborn, just like when you think Wii U could sell more LFT, well i'll let the futur show you how you were wrong, the only thing i can do at this point.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Aerys on 26 February 2015

This source is only a special tv program about DQ X, developers talked a little bit about DQXI during the show and it's the only thing they said about it when they were on the DQ Heroes subject, nothing " sketchy" , unless the words from the developers are



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:


Oh i even made a thread  on that : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=191719

 

Hum really dont know what to answer on that... So you are saying Wii U could run FFXV, The Order, ... ?

 

Wow what a bad faith, you ask me for the link of this argument and now you say " pff it can go either way its not an evidence" sorry but there is much more evidence it will come on PS4 than Wii U, you really have to refuse to see it to not be able to see it.

Of course it can go either way, I don't have a crystal ball and the evidence points to either multiplat or exclusive to wii u/ps4.

"sorry but there is much more evidence it will come on PS4 than Wii U". It's tiresome but I already proved it doesn't.



Skullwaker on 26 February 2015

 

 

 

Aerys said:
Because they want it on home console, they made it clear, they want it more ambitious , including visually( equal to dragon quest heroes cinematics), and they want to bring dragon quest to the west like they said earlier, so ps4 is the only choice among japanese consoles to do that, and the most important, horii Saïd :

 

" he said that it is being developed separately, but that Dragon Quest Heroes is being released with the hope that it will build up excitement among those who play it to make them look forward to the next title. "

 

 

So after knowing that, its your choice to not see the obvious but your are warned, dont be surprised when its announced for PS4 and maybe Pss3
PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal

Dragon Quest NES 1986 Role-Playing Capcom 0.49 0.00 0.52 1.51 2.52
Dragon Quest II NES 1987 Role-Playing Enix Corporation 0.15 0.00 2.41 0.00 2.56
Dragon Quest III NES 1988 Role-Playing Enix Corporation 0.10 0.00 3.77 0.00 3.87
Dragon Quest IV NES 1990 Role-Playing Enix Corporation 0.08 0.00 3.03 0.01 3.12
Dragon Quest V: Tenkuu no Hanayome SNES 1992 Role-Playing Enix Corporation 0.00 0.00 2.78 0.01 2.79
Dragon Quest VI: Maboroshi no Daichi SNES 1995 Role-Playing Enix Corporation 0.00 0.00 3.19 0.00 3.19
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies DS 2009 Role-Playing Nintendo 0.61 0.66 4.35 0.14 5.77
Dragon Quest X Wii 2012 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.00 0.00 0.83 0.00 0.83
Dragon Quest X WiiU 2013 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.00 0.00 0.23 0.00 0.23
Dragon Quest X 3DS 2014 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.00 0.00 0.15 0.00 0.15

Dragon Quest games are traditionally exclusive to a.) Nintendo consoles, b.) the most successful systems in Japan, or c.) both. This generation, that's the 3DS. You really think Square Enix cares more about graphical fidelity than pure profit? Tell me why they were so disappointed with Tomb Raider's sales, despite it looking beautiful on every system. If they can get away with making a more inexpensive game and maximizing their profits, they will do it.

DQH being PS3/PS4 exclusive means nothing in this scenario. There hasn't been a mainline Dragon Quest on Playstation platforms in over 10 years, and Squeenix has no reason to mess with success. It would not sell as much on PS4 as it would on 3DS, and that's common knowledge. I'm a realist. 



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forethought14 on 26 February 2015

PS4 will definitely outsell Wii U, might double the LTD if it's around long enough. It'll fall behind further these next few weeks aligned though thanks to Wii U's exceptional 2nd holiday. PS4 may pass Wii U sometime next year if it does well enough this year.



Lawlight on 26 February 2015
b00moscone said:
outlawauron said:

Why do you think that will happen. PS3 sold mroe software than the Wii in Japan, so you'd have to expect that the PS4 would push more SW without a userbase disadvantage.


The Wii and Wii U are totally different systems. The Wii was mostly bought for casuals who just wanted a bowling simulator and maybe Mario Kart Wii, of course the PS3 sold more software. On the other hand, the Wii U has a more dedicated fanbase with, what i have already said, a much more consistent attach rate. But i was getting ahead of myself saying it will definitely sell more sofware. I think it will be the PS4's more games vs the Wii U's attach rate.

Just because the WiiU might have a higher attach rate than the Wii in the future, that does not mean that it will have a higher attach rate than the PS4 or that the number of games bought by WiiU owners will exceed the number of games bought by PS4 owners.