The AI is completely stupid at time too.

It's pretty overhyped based on the 3-4 hours I've played. The gameplay itself is pretty solid, but the story isn't nearly as awesome or engaging or emotional as everyone else seems to say. I wanna go back and finish it for the sake of finishing it, but my thoughts aren't the most positive at this point. Glad someone else thinks so.

*Looks at thread title, sees the part in the OP that says; "I've beaten the game twice, and on my third play-though of it.  I've beaten it once on normal, and again on survivor.  I'm playing survivor+ and having the same issues I had with my first two plays."

Walks home confused.*

Thats really weird... like i seriously dont know why its doing that... we are talking about the sniper in the house right? if so then... i dont know, especially since thats one of the sequences in the game where you are supposed to be really quick and get to the other side of the map, behind the sniper and go up to the last floor on the house to kill him.

i wonder if its a really weird bug.

b or c movie pretending to be a video game imo, miyamoto was right. it's embarrassing the way the enthusiast press has slobbered all over this mess. and it's a mess even on a technical level. the ai is shit, for example. the gameplay is claustrophobically limited. the whole point of games, and virtual worlds more broadly, is to create freedom of movement that one cannot possibly have in the real world. the last of us chooses instead to hobble you far beyond the demands of gravity. it is a chore to play thru.

Exactly.  I wait for him to shoot first, then I run... or I try to, at least, but... Nope, joel's just strolling and then I'm shot...  Happens at random, but then it just happened 4 times back to back, and I was done after that.

You know, I love the new Tomb Raider.  Love the fuck out of it.  In some threads, people attacked it for having canned death animations when you stealth or melee kill an enemy, for Lara surviving a nail in her side, or for enemies sharing the same face.  All were legit gripes, I guess....but then I said "Hey!  These other acclaimed games have the exact same problems and nobody calls them out!"

I think, depending on loyalties, some people play games (even great games) just looking for something--anything--to complain about.  After four playthroughs, the OP doesn't hate TLoU.  He friggin' loves it and it pisses him off as much as it pissed me off!!

It's pretty overhyped based on the 3-4 hours I've played

but... i know im gonna sound crazy but thats how long the intro is, the game only really picks up once you leave Tess, in other words from Bill level and forward.

also you cant really judge a story if you havent watch/heard said story and as of now you have only seen the beggining, and its a really SLOW beggining, if you already own the game you should go back to it.

i have no problem with people not liking the game, not every game is for everyone, but you should at least beat the game before judging it.

that's not how games work. it's maybe how books and movies and such work, but games ought to provide moment-to-moment pleasures of being in control and, you know, having fun. see, for example, super mario world, or katamari damacy, or pac-man, or yars' revenge...

(he already said the gameplay was fine) he was talking about the story, and i am talking about the story as well... i thought that was implicit but i guess i should have been more specific...