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MDMAlliance on 14 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Culture. Everything one group can do the other can as well. Everyone originated from Africa based on bone studies before the migration and everyone split up. We're all cousins. 

There is also no such thing as race, its a social construct to separate one human group from another. We're all phenotypes.

phe·no·type

   (fē′nə-tīp′)

n.
1.
a. The observable physical or biochemical characteristics of an organism, as determined by both genetic makeup andenvironmental influences.
b. The expression of a specific trait, such as stature or blood type, based on genetic and environmental influences.
2. An individual or group of organisms exhibiting a particular phenotype.
Genotypes are just individuals or organisms who come from a similar genepool and express similar outer features. Phenotypes are once genotypes whose outer appearance changed because of exposure to another environment.

Hence...once everyone left Africa they changed.


I don't know why you're the only one who said this.

Also, let me add this: 

Abstract

Races may exist in humans in a cultural sense, but biological concepts of race are needed to access their reality in a non-species-specific manner and to see if cultural categories correspond to biological categories within humans. Modern biological concepts of race can be implemented objectively with molecular genetic data through hypothesis-testing. Genetic data sets are used to see if biological races exist in humans and in our closest evolutionary relative, the chimpanzee. Using the two most commonly used biological concepts of race, chimpanzees are indeed subdivided into races but humans are not. Adaptive traits, such as skin color, have frequently been used to define races in humans, but such adaptive traits reflect the underlying environmental factor to which they are adaptive and not overall genetic differentiation, and different adaptive traits define discordant groups. There are no objective criteria for choosing one adaptive trait over another to define race. As a consequence, adaptive traits do not define races in humans. Much of the recent scientific literature on human evolution portrays human populations as separate branches on an evolutionary tree. A tree-like structure among humans has been falsified whenever tested, so this practice is scientifically indefensible. It is also socially irresponsible as these pictorial representations of human evolution have more impact on the general public than nuanced phrases in the text of a scientific paper. Humans have much genetic diversity, but the vast majority of this diversity reflects individual uniqueness and not race.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23684745



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S.T.A.G.E. on 14 January 2015
MDMAlliance said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Culture. Everything one group can do the other can as well. Everyone originated from Africa based on bone studies before the migration and everyone split up. We're all cousins. 

There is also no such thing as race, its a social construct to separate one human group from another. We're all phenotypes.

phe·no·type

   (fē′nə-tīp′)

n.
1.
a. The observable physical or biochemical characteristics of an organism, as determined by both genetic makeup andenvironmental influences.
b. The expression of a specific trait, such as stature or blood type, based on genetic and environmental influences.
2. An individual or group of organisms exhibiting a particular phenotype.
Genotypes are just individuals or organisms who come from a similar genepool and express similar outer features. Phenotypes are once genotypes whose outer appearance changed because of exposure to another environment.

Hence...once everyone left Africa they changed.


I don't know why you're the only one who said this.

Also, let me add this: 

Abstract

Races may exist in humans in a cultural sense, but biological concepts of race are needed to access their reality in a non-species-specific manner and to see if cultural categories correspond to biological categories within humans. Modern biological concepts of race can be implemented objectively with molecular genetic data through hypothesis-testing. Genetic data sets are used to see if biological races exist in humans and in our closest evolutionary relative, the chimpanzee. Using the two most commonly used biological concepts of race, chimpanzees are indeed subdivided into races but humans are not. Adaptive traits, such as skin color, have frequently been used to define races in humans, but such adaptive traits reflect the underlying environmental factor to which they are adaptive and not overall genetic differentiation, and different adaptive traits define discordant groups. There are no objective criteria for choosing one adaptive trait over another to define race. As a consequence, adaptive traits do not define races in humans. Much of the recent scientific literature on human evolution portrays human populations as separate branches on an evolutionary tree. A tree-like structure among humans has been falsified whenever tested, so this practice is scientifically indefensible. It is also socially irresponsible as these pictorial representations of human evolution have more impact on the general public than nuanced phrases in the text of a scientific paper. Humans have much genetic diversity, but the vast majority of this diversity reflects individual uniqueness and not race.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23684745


Exactly. Science....ain't it grand? 



KingCherry on 14 January 2015

So if there's no such thing as race, and we're all the same, can we all bury white guilt and stop all this affirmative action codswallop?

Blacks are better athletes, yeh! Black are better dancers, yeh! Whites are more intelligent, what? RACIST!



Cobretti2 on 14 January 2015

Black people were racist (until recently) and white people were not (but now supposedly are if they cops)

Reason for this black people fro Afrida have no Neanderthal DNA, White people went all funky and did inter species breading.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/modern-humans-once-mated-with-other-species-125536319/?no-ist



OK so my post is left field but generally in a modern world we are the same. Opportunities and culture will influence your outcome in life no matter what colour.



 

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 14 January 2015
Cobretti2 said:
Black people were racist (until recently) and white people were not (but now supposedly are if they cops)

Reason for this black people fro Afrida have no Neanderthal DNA, White people went all funky and did inter species breading.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/modern-humans-once-mated-with-other-species-125536319/?no-ist



OK so my post is left field but generally in a modern world we are the same. Opportunities and culture will influence your outcome in life no matter what colour.


Everyone was the same in Africa..Whites became white and evolved around the caucasus mountain area, hence the term Caucasian and it wasnt just Caucasian people but everyone else who migrated out of africa who mated with the neandethals. It only affected a small percentage of human DNA in ancient times so really and truly its not counted for anything really.

25 percent of blacks in America have European heritage, so yeah were all pretty diverse phenotypes.



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ICStats on 14 January 2015

White men can't jump!



My 8th gen collection

Cobretti2 on 14 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Cobretti2 said:
Black people were racist (until recently) and white people were not (but now supposedly are if they cops)

Reason for this black people fro Afrida have no Neanderthal DNA, White people went all funky and did inter species breading.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/modern-humans-once-mated-with-other-species-125536319/?no-ist



OK so my post is left field but generally in a modern world we are the same. Opportunities and culture will influence your outcome in life no matter what colour.


Everyone was the same in Africa..Whites became white and evolved around the caucasus mountain area, hence the term Caucasian and it wasnt just Caucasian people but everyone else who migrated out of africa who mated with the neandethals. It only affected a small percentage of human DNA in ancient times so really and truly its not counted for anything really.


yer I know was jsut throwing soming different into the mix rather than nose hair



 

 

TheGoldenBoy on 14 January 2015

Is it weird I can now guess if it's a Spurge thread just by the title?



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 January 2015
Cobretti2 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Everyone was the same in Africa..Whites became white and evolved around the caucasus mountain area, hence the term Caucasian and it wasnt just Caucasian people but everyone else who migrated out of africa who mated with the neandethals. It only affected a small percentage of human DNA in ancient times so really and truly its not counted for anything really.


yer I know was jsut throwing soming different into the mix rather than nose hair


Gotcha. I also thought it was worth noting that civilization as we know it as a structural concept can be attributed to Asian society (The middle eastern variety). No one else historically founded it before them. We've learned much from one anothers experiences after evolution from the various ranges on the planet.



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 January 2015
KingCherry said:
So if there's no such thing as race, and we're all the same, can we all bury white guilt and stop all this affirmative action codswallop?

Blacks are better athletes, yeh! Black are better dancers, yeh! Whites are more intelligent, what? RACIST!


Where in America are you from? I'm just assuming you're American from what you're saying.